mersenneforum.org  

Go Back   mersenneforum.org > Extra Stuff > Science & Technology

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 2013-03-01, 02:21   #859
LaurV
Romulan Interpreter
 
LaurV's Avatar
 
Jun 2011
Thailand

26·151 Posts
Default

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Those guys really put a lot of effort into this meteorite!

Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2013-03-01 at 02:21
LaurV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-01, 21:42   #860
cheesehead
 
cheesehead's Avatar
 
"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA

22·3·641 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaurV View Post
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Those guys really put a lot of effort into this meteorite!
I should note that, in the past, other bolides have also had observations, photos, or films that enabled some sort of triangulation to establish their paths through particular points in the atmosphere -- but rougher than in this case. In each case, the other needed datum was the travel time between those points -- either measured, or (usually) just estimated based on circumstances. From those points and times, the calculation of the corresponding meteoroids' previous orbits (actually, a range of possible orbits, depending on the uncertainties in location points and travel times) proceeded using just the same math as was used in this case for orbit calculation. So, that much isn't new.

What was new in this case AFAIK was

(1) that there were so many videos available, due to current ubiquity of small video cameras, that some of them enabled especially precise determination of the points and times. In particular,

(2) the surveillance video of Revolution Square in Chelyabinsk showed special data -- the shadows of light poles -- that enabled more-precise-than-usual triangulation (as first pointed out by Stefan Geens), along with reliable timing, and

(3) the fortunate circumstance of the bolide's traveling almost directly through the zenith over another city which, while not so precisely measurable in any individual video, was recorded in so many videos, were special to this case.

Also, (4) the hole in ice that was probably made by a piece of the meteorite from the bolide added a precise data point for path determination.

Those enabled the orbit calculations to be done with less uncertainty than for any previous bolide AFAIK.

Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2013-03-01 at 21:48
cheesehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-06, 01:52   #862
science_man_88
 
science_man_88's Avatar
 
"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville

26×131 Posts
Default

one thing I've been thinking could this one day have a counterpart below nerve damage and send the brain signals between the units if so maybe the second unit feeds to the body, then paralyzed people could have full body control restored.
science_man_88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-08, 19:02   #863
xilman
Bamboozled!
 
xilman's Avatar
 
"𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭"
May 2003
Down not across

2·5,393 Posts
Default The best bang since the big one?

Actually, it isn't but I couldn't pass up the opportunity of a DNA quote.

Nice little article about the consequences of a cometary impact on Mars in the near future. The odds are against it, currently around 700:1, but it would be rather interesting if it did happen.


Paul
xilman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-19, 14:48   #865
rogue
 
rogue's Avatar
 
"Mark"
Apr 2003
Between here and the

18D416 Posts
Default

Mystery boson earns Higgs status thanks to W particle

Life-friendly environment confirmed on Mars

Star system is closest found in a century
rogue is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-19, 20:21   #866
science_man_88
 
science_man_88's Avatar
 
"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville

26·131 Posts
Default

This Protein Could Change Biotech Forever

'Lost' Tectonic Plate Found Beneath California
science_man_88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-19, 21:02   #867
cheesehead
 
cheesehead's Avatar
 
"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA

22·3·641 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by science_man_88 View Post
I hate it when I lose a plate from my 16-place-setting tectonic collection.
cheesehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-21, 23:17   #869
ewmayer
2ω=0
 
ewmayer's Avatar
 
Sep 2002
República de California

2D7F16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatlander View Post
Still freaking out.
I dislike the misleading term "action at a distance" for entanglement - as the article notes, it cannot (AFAWK) be used to transmit information - it's merely a quantum correlation which appears bizarre to our macroscopically biased senses because it is utterly insensitive to "common-sense notions of space and time". No information transfer = no action, in my book.

Given that rather severe constraint, the article's mentioning of a perhaps-possible "quantum internet" is also way overblown. Why? Because none of the teleportation experiments violates accepted laws of QM nor relativistic faster-than-light bans which rule out *any* faster-than-light information transfer, which any kind of "quantum internet" such as that hyped in the article would require.

None of which is to say that it isn't a very nifty experimental result - but please can we have less Hollywood-style "inspired by actual physics" blurring of the line between science and fiction?
ewmayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official "Faits erronés dans de belles-lettres" thread ewmayer Lounge 39 2015-05-19 01:08
Official "all-Greek-to-me Fiction Literature and Cinema" Thread ewmayer Science & Technology 41 2014-04-16 11:54
Official "Lasciate ogne speranza" whinge-thread cheesehead Soap Box 56 2013-06-29 01:42
Official "Ernst is a deceiving bully and George is a meanie" thread cheesehead Soap Box 61 2013-06-11 04:30
Official "String copy Statement Considered Harmful" thread Dubslow Programming 19 2012-05-31 17:49

All times are UTC. The time now is 22:53.


Fri Aug 6 22:53:17 UTC 2021 up 14 days, 17:22, 1 user, load averages: 4.23, 4.15, 3.95

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum has received and complied with 0 (zero) government requests for information.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
A copy of the license is included in the FAQ.