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Sep 2002
República de California
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We had a major software-checkin deadline at work yesterday, so I got barely a 10-minute breather to pop in here and reply to davar55`s "Why do you vilify Greenspan?" query - a little catchup-playing today...
------------ It was widely (and dutifully uncritically) reported in the MSFM yesterday that Uncle Stupid somehow *made* a profit on his bank-bailout "investment" - Allow me to pour a little cold water of reality on that piece of incredibly disingenuous reporting: As Big Banks Repay Bailout Money, U.S. Sees a Profit Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Tuesday Link-o-Rama:
No new manufacturing jobs - survey: U.S. manufacturers will not add jobs in a significant manner in the near term despite higher demand reviving production, according to the Institute for Supply Management. The housing recovery mirage: With home prices rising even in California, it might seem that the worst is over for the housing market. But the good vibrations may be short lived. Madoff Liquidator May File `Clawback' Suits to Get Charities' Fake Profits: Irving Picard, the liquidator for Bernard Madoff’s investment business, said he might sue charities that took out more money than they invested with the imprisoned con man to force them to return the difference. My Comment: Hmm ... wonder if a clawback counts as a kind of "reverse charitable contribution"... China's Manufacturing Expands at Fastest Pace Since April 2008 on Lending: China’s manufacturing expanded at the fastest pace in 16 months in August, driven by record lending in the first half of the year, two surveys showed. My Comment: See yesterday`s quote by the Chinese SWF manager about "addressing bubbles by creating more bubbles". British Consumers Repay Debt, Rein In Spending as Manufacturing Contracts: U.K. consumers repaid debt by the most on record in July and manufacturing unexpectedly contracted, indicating the economy’s path out of the worst recession in a generation will be uneven. My Comment: Like Americans, UK consumers are doing the painful-but-necessary thing, which is beginning the long, painful process of deleveraging. In the U.S., the government is of course doing everything in its power to "get spending going and credit flowing again" - that`s one symptom of the sickness which is long-term replacement of a productive, net-exporting economy with a Ponzi-finance-based one, in which a huge percentage of the "workers" are engaged in fundamentally unproductive economic activities. How many new-minted "realtors" and serial-house-flippers did the housing bubble create, one wonders. The number must be huge, because 43% of new-job creation during the bubble was directly related to housing, whether it be in construction, appraisal (fraud), (Ponzi) financing or (un)realty. Pending home sales hit 6th straight increase: Index jumps by 3.2% in July, beating estimates and marking its longest streak on monthly increases on record. Quote:
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Humor: The perils of speaking too soon Top headline on the CNN/Money homepage around 10:30 eastern this morning was the bullish Stocks find their legs: Wall Street builds gains after housing and manufacturing reports top expectations. Dow, Nasdaq, S&P 500 flirt with fresh 2009 highs. Quote:
Stocks tumble after climb: Wall Street gives up morning gains despite stronger-than-expected housing and manufacturing results. Quote:
Anyhoo, ya probably should`ve waited until, oh, say, *two* hours into the session - Looks like the nearly 6-month-old Federal ban on the Dow dropping more than 100 points in a session has been lifted: |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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An interesting summation of market risk today might include these items:
1. Real estate bubble still has not 'wound down' from too speculative highs. 2. Manufacturing capacity is drastically underutilized because of poor demand. 3. Job losses continue at a steady pace with true unemployment currently 20% or more. 4. unbelievable levels of borrowing by the govt threaten to crash the economy. 5. Commercial borrowing, especially real estate based loans, are approaching critical mass and explosion. While many pundits try to downplay one or more of the above, taken in total, the only reasonable expectation is continuing market instability and volatility with an overall trend downward. But that is not the most significant risk to America. The single biggest economic risk we face today is the loss of jobs here at home to overseas manufacturers. In the last 40 years, we have exported about 60% of our manufacturing and technology jobs to places like China, India, Taiwan, Korea, Mexico, and even Guatamala. You add the names of other relevant countries. The net effect of this jobs loss is that the economy no longer has the resilience to recover from a massive blow like the current recession/depression. We can bemoan the loss, but we did it to ourselves. We went from an overwhelming exporter to an equally extreme importer of both goods and services. Given enough time, this country could easily become a 3rd world nation. DarJones |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Some fascinating tidbits about U.S. financial policy (note especially the role of Cold War military spedning, which alas has not ended as the Cold War did) from the above Bretton-Woods Wikilink: Quote:
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May 2004
New York City
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It is not a "rigging" of the dollar.
Ultimately, though it may not seem like it because of the ratios, it's Fort Knox and an implicit gold standard that the dollar - and thus the other related world currencies - rely on. The federal reserve and e-cash are all ultimately are reality based. |
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Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE
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May 2004
New York City
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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Not to make fun of your post, but I suggest some serious study of the 'monetized paper' that our economy is based on. The term "hard" currency no longer applies to any society on earth except maybe the New Guinea savages who use seashells as money. DarJones |
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May 2004
New York City
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Money is, by definition, a medium of exchange and a store of value.
Everytime money became just the former, the relevant economy failed. Our paper money may not "seem" to be a store of much value, but it is ultimately backed up. Even e-cash is ultimately convertible into what you termed "hard currency". When we stopped printing "gold certificates" the government hoarded gold. When we stopped printing "silver certificates", silver coins were generally removed from circulation. These metals are still around. Guaranteed. |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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But - unlike in the gold-standard days, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE of what those "future dollars" will be able to buy. In the 1950s (while we were still on the gold standard), you were GUARANTEED a certain dollar-to-gold exchange rate, which at that time was pegged at $35 per ounce of gold*. Due to cold-war budget deficits and the rampant government spending of e.g. LBJ's "Great Society" program, such a fixed standard quickly became untenable, as the Wiki article I linked explains in detail. So first the U.S. progressively devalued those "ultimately backed up" dollars, and then abandoned the "store of value" paradigm entirely. How many of those dollars you have so much misguided faith in does it take to buy an ounce of gold today? Sure, incomes have risen (somewhat) following the overall inflation (i.e. dollar devaluation) rate, but that is small comfort to someone who bought a 30-year T-bill in 1970 and cashed it in in 2000. A similar "gotcha!" applies to other nice-sounding "guarantees" ... for instance the FDIC "guarantees all depositors will get their money up to $100,000" (whoops, now $250,000, since a hundred grand don't buy what it used to) in case of failure of an FDIC "insured" institution ... but they make no guarantee whatever WHAT THOSE DOLLARS WILL BUY. It's a Ponzi scheme, plain and simple. (Or if you like, a tax on assets ... One of the fundamental results of moving from an economic model based on savings and prudent investment thereof to one based on credit, that is, debt.) And your comment "Everytime money became just the former, the relevant economy failed" is spot on ... a country can only keep spending beyond its means for so long ... the "rigged system" part of my previous post explains why the U.s. has managed to keep the Ponzi going longer than any other country on earth would be able to. But at some point, the piper *will* demand to be paid, and that is why some very bright independent-of-government minds are predicting a currency crisis in the not-too-distant future for good old Uncle Spendsalot. ------- *Now it's a fair question of "what's so special about gold ... it's not particularly useful". But it has longstanding historical precedent as a widely-agreed-upon, reasonably portable store of value, and most importantly, like the large stones-with-holes currencies of some "primitive civilizations", it is LABOR-INTENSIVE TO PROCURE, that is, it doesn't "grow on tress", so to speak. Paper money, OTOH, requires virtually zero effort to produce, and even less now that nearly all money "printed" by the Federal reserve is of the electronic variety. Need another trillion bucks? A few keystrokes is all it takes, followed by a bit of phony theater involving a series of Treasury auction, in which if there is no foreign demand for the newly issued debt, the Fed can simply prod its network of Primary Dealers to make a show of bidding for it with "strong demand" and the quietly buy the very same funny money back from the PDs by way of its next round of Permanent Open Market Operations, a.k.a. "monetization" of the debt, something Ben Bernanke has strenuously denied doing, but for which there is mounting and incontrovertible evidence. |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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Lol Davar, I think the seashells are the best currency imaginable. There are lots of them, they are constantly renewable, and you can gather your own just by visiting the seashore.
Seriously, if you think the dollar is some magical store of value, then I suggest you look carefully at the effect of inflation. The underlying basis for all currency is hard goods. A refrigerator for example represents about $500 to $700 in today's dollars. The key to understanding the relationship is to see that under the gold standard, all dollars could be converted to a single hard asset, gold. With the floating currency we have today, the dollar can be converted to ANY hard asset, but is not backed by a single asset like gold. The problem with this is that inflation becomes much more likely than with a gold standard. The net effect is that he who holds a hard asset wants more dollars to part with it. People who happen to be holding dollars when inflation hits tend to lose buying power. The advantage of the gold standard was simple, it drastically reduced the fluctuations caused by inflation. Note that it did NOT stop inflation. Zimbabwe is an excellent case study to see what happens when the 'hard asset conversion value' of paper money is compromised. Zimbabwe's problem is simple in a way. They printed their way out of a cash crisis and in the process collapsed the value of their currency. In the final analysis, paper money has no true value at all. It is the perceived value that we trade on. DarJones Last fiddled with by Fusion_power on 2009-09-03 at 16:14 |
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