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Sep 2002
República de California
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Let`s see what the day hath brought ... new-home sales appear better than expected, (though prices continue to drop), albeit with the usual lack of mention of seasonality and error bars by the MSM ... Barry Ritholtz (whose mother was a real estate agent) rips the NAR for their recent whining about tougher appraisal rules ... 64 banks have failed so far this year, including a whopping 7 last Friday (the FDIC likes to take down banks on Fridays: At work you might have "casual dress Fridays", at the FDIC they have "bank failure Fridays") and it looks like the 2nd-largest publicly-traded bank in Texas is about to go next ...
The End of the End of the Recession: The folks at ZeroHedge have collaborated with David Rosenberg, former chief North American economist at BofA (by way of Merrill Lynch) and one of the very few Wall-Street-affiliated economists not shy to tell it like it is over the past several years (which likely explains why he is no longer at BofA) to produce an in-depth report titled The End of the End of the Recession. Most assuredly *not* coming to CNBC any time soon... note that ZH/DR are preparing an entire separate report on the elephant in the green-shoots bedroom which is commercial real estate. China Economy In-Depth: China's hidden debt problem: Despite robust growth, the world's third largest economy is potentially deeper in debt than originally thought. Quote:
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The one thing that China is doing that *is* very smart is starting to (gradually) offload their guaranteed-to-soon-be-devalued $2.2 Trillion pile of U.S. sovereign and agency debt, by buying up economically vital commodities (or interests in countries producing them, e.g. oil in Sudan, iron ore in Australia) and on-sale distressed business assets worldwide. Much more detail and great insights into the economic goings-on in China and the prospects for a "statistical recovery" in the U.s. economy are in John Mauldin`s latest newsletter. |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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Answer confirmed in article: careful tiptoeing to avoid upsetting the apple cart. At least my fears about a foreign government using its Treasury holdings as a financial weapon, a la Tom Clancy, are not coming to pass. Congrats to those who helped engineer China's trade dependency on us! |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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The US-China Ponzi scheme: By unwittingly tying together their fortunes as they pursued their own interests, the 2 nations have put themselves on an economic path of mutually assured destruction. Quote:
"There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." -- Ludwig von Mises I wonder if Von Mises would classify "slow multidecadal bleed to zero" (e.g. the U.S. dollar as a store of value) as a "catastrophe" ... the Fed appears to have managed to stave off The Big One, by embracing monetization and "muddle through" economics, a la post-real-estate-bubble-and-crash Japan. |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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- - - Ask ourselves: Suppose China did exactly what we think they "can't afford" to do. Just what kind of ratio would there be between the real damages on each side? China suffers capital losses on its foreign bond holdings. Awww... Maybe 400 billion dollars in losses? (A mere fraction of the cost of U.S. invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, while taking down the most powerful nation on Earth ...) Well, at least that lowers their tax bill. U.S. and EU set new records for depth of economic ruin. (You ain't seen nothin' yet. TARP will be just a handkerchief blowing in the wind.) Far-fetched? Read the ending of Clancy's Debt of Honor again ... just one jumbo jet, just one disgruntled pilot, just one deliberate crash into just one important building ... Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2009-07-28 at 06:31 |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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cheesehead, you are manufacturing a conspiracy.
Also, China holds a lot more than $400 billion in U.S. debt. DarJones |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
22·3·641 Posts |
That's a nice compliment, but the credit really should go to Tom Clancy!
Debt of Honor includes financial warfare as well as physical warfare. Quote:
But I did forget their other debt holdings. My subconscious didn't, but I ignored his warning ("Isn't that too low?"). Even if a 100% loss cost the same as Iraq/Afghanistan, that would be pretty cheap for wrecking the U.S. :-) Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2009-07-28 at 21:37 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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For the sino-conspiracymongers, ask yourselves: Why would China want to destroy their #1 export market? (Yes, I admit the phrase "...especially since we're doing such a good job of it ourselves..." springs to mind.) You think the Chinese leadership is foolish enough to want to court the prospect of a couple hundred million out-of-work people?
Also, I dispute any claim that full-on economic warfare between the US and China "would hurt us" (i.e. the US) more. Worst case: the U.S. defaults on its debt. What would be the consequences of that? Obviously it would mean an inability to borrow money from abroad, which would entail a sudden reversion to having to live within our means. A wrenching adjustment for a nation used to living to gross material excess, yes. But: Even though the U.S. has exported much of its manufacturing base overseas in the past 50 years, consider the following: - We are self-sufficient in terms of food production, in fact have persistent surpluses there, i.e. no risk of mass starvation (contrast that with China); - We have vast quantities of natural resources, and even though we lack sufficient quantities to meet our needs in certain key ones (notably oil), we have enough to meet our basic needs (e.g. oil-derived chemicals and pharmaceuticals) and could make up much of the shortfall by way of the three-pronged strategy of (i) conservation (half as many cars, each carrying 2-3 passengers most of the time and averaging > 50 mpg would save huge amounts of oil, for starters), (ii) conversion (many products currently obtained from crude oil can be gotten elsewhere, e.g. from coal, albeit generally at a higher cost), and (iii) food for oil exchange (many oil exporters are food importers, and cannot easily "conserve food".) - Even though our industrial base is much smaller than it used to be, we still have all the needed technical know-how to reconstruct it with relative ease (especially since most of the exported industry was relatively low-tech, e.g. steel smelting) and the natural resources needed to do so. (Admittedly, pollution would rise, but we're at war here, remember?) All the key high-tech sectors of the economy (e.g. computers, pharma/bio, aerospace and yes, even automotive) are still here, never having left to any significant extent. - As with other sectors, our bloated military would need to go on a crash diet (many folks around the world would consider that a very good thing), but maintaining a sufficient *defensive* capability would require only a small fraction of our current expenditures. China has a huge army, but no Navy of note. Anyone care to comment on how much money and time it takes to build a world-class blue-water naval capability? - Despite the graying of the baby boomers, we have plentiful, still-relatively young labor force. Sorry, cheesehead, no buy-in from me on the "China T-Bond Torpedo" hypothesis. -------------- Regarding the accelerating pace of bank failures, one of Barry Ritholtz`s readers comments poetically: Quote:
McGraw-Hill Second-Quarter Profit Drops 23%; Full-Year Sales Forecast Cut: McGraw-Hill Cos., the owner of Standard & Poor’s and BusinessWeek, reported second-quarter profit fell 23 percent and cut its 2009 sales forecast, citing a weakening market for advertising and school textbooks. Quote:
Bank of China to Continue Lending Expansion Unless Government Clamps Down: Bank of China Ltd., which doled out the most loans among Chinese banks in the first half, plans to keep expanding credit unless the government clamps down on the nation’s record lending boom. My Comment: They're a-blowin` one whopper of a bad-loan bubble in China in a furious effort to keep their economy "growing" ... but not to worry, BofC probably has assurances from the smart folks at Standard and Poors (a division of McGraw-Hill Inc) that the chances of a significant portion of those government-mandated loans defaulting are "miniscule". And you can take that to the bank (soon to be insolvent, but shhh - you didn`t hear it here). All is not gloomy, however - we have a +0.5% month-over-motnh (but still -17% year-over-year) green shoot in the latest Case-Shiller housing-price stats: Home prices up for 1st time in 3 years: Index of 20 major cities rises on a monthly basis for the first time since July 2006, hinting that the worst of the declines may be over. Quote:
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(I have got to develop the habit of using the wink smilies!) Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2009-07-29 at 18:28 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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This from an admitted China permaBull, no less:
How do you say 'bubble' in Mandarin?: Chinese stocks are on a tear and banks are lending like there's no tomorrow. Sound familiar? But China needs to remain healthy. The U.S. can't afford for it to slump. Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Microsoft Prescribes Permanent `Diet Regime' After First Annual Sales Drop: Microsoft Corp., coping with its first annual sales drop, will make frugality a new way of life, Chief Financial Officer Chris Liddell said.
Amusing headline des Tages: "Daimler has Q2 loss of $1.51 billion, result beats analyst estimates." Oh wait, I take that back ... this Bloomberg "Green Shoots Sproutin` All Over, Bitches!" U.S. Durable Goods Orders, Excluding Cars and Planes, Unexpectedly Advance: Orders for U.S. durable goods, excluding automobiles and aircraft, unexpectedly rose in June, signaling manufacturing may expand in the second half of the year. Quote:
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The New York Times` Bob Herbert opines on the banking and mortgage industries gearing up for "war" against the Obama administration`s proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency: Chutzpah on Steroids: What is up with the banks and the rest of the financial industry? The people running this system remind me of gangsters who manage to walk out of the courthouse with a suspended sentence and can’t wait to get back to their nefarious activities. Quote:
Systemic Risks Posed by HFT: Quantitative-finance guru Paul Wilmott has an Op-Ed on high-frequency trading and the danger of all the big players trying to out-game each other via similar strategies (rather than doing anything to help spur genuine price discovery in the equity markets) in today`s NYT. Note that Wilmott only talks about straight (and perfectly legal) HFT in which all participants have access to the pricing data (in theory) at the same time, not the (also perfectly legal, alas) scam that is flash orders. Hurrying Into the Next Panic: On top of an already dangerously influential and morally suspect financial minefield is now being added the unthinking power of the machine. Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2009-07-29 at 21:41 |
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