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"William"
May 2003
New Haven
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Web sources say these "bonds" were dated 1934, which makes them obviously phony because bonds in these denominations were not issued in 1934 - in fact the entire national debt wasn't that large in 1934. The web sources further say there is an ongoing business of printing these bonds in the Phillipines and using them in scams, usually targetting senior citizens in "914" style scams. The scam usually ages the paper, and these had not been aged yet.
So my guess is that this interrupted the setup phase of a many-victim scam. No one victim was going to see all these bonds, but many victims were going to see one or more of these bonds. Perhaps the scam story is that a bank insider "discovered" these in WWII era lock boxes for which no living claimant can be found, and the fake bonds were on their way to real Swiss safety deposit boxes. The "Kennedy" bonds must have had a later date - perhaps these were lost by victims of Asian or African genocides. As to not prosecuting the couriers - perhaps they are too small to bother with, or perhaps they cut a deal, or maybe it's not counterfeiting if the real thing doesn't exist. Sorry I didn't keep the web sources - it sounded like this explanation would be everywhere by now. |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
22×3×641 Posts |
"10-quirky-economic-indicators"
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"Mark"
Feb 2003
Sydney
3·191 Posts |
134.5 billion? Small fry - try fifteen times that! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1180171.stm from eight years ago in the Philippines, where it seems bond scams are relatively common.
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
19·613 Posts |
Ben Bernanke keeps repeating the "Credit Markets are Healing" propaganda ad nauseam, but Mish Shedlock today features an analysis by Martin Weiss of the Fed`s own quarterly flow-of-funds report to paint a starkly different picture:
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
265778 Posts |
Decline of West Seen in Scotland Where Mathewson Rues What Goodwin Wrought: In a white shooting lodge above a Highland stream where salmon return after navigating ocean currents, George Mathewson, the 69-year-old architect of Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc’s global expansion, rues the day his handpicked successor, Fred Goodwin, brought down the company, shaking the foundations of capitalism and undermining Scottish independence.
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Darling Signals Rift With Brown, Saying U.K. Must Curb Deficit: Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling, signaling a clash with Prime Minister Gordon Brown over spending, said the U.K. government must make tough decisions to curb the budget deficit. Quote:
Parliament Finally Sees Some Beauty in Britain`s Beast of Bolsover: For 40 Years, Irritating Lawmaker Has Been a Scold on Expenses. Now People Listen Quote:
Some of the UK`s "parliamentary traditions" whih Skinner rails against could be taken right our of a Blackadder skit: Quote:
The sound of hoof beats 'cross the glade, Good folk, lock up your son and daughter, Beware the deadly flashing blade, Unless you want to end up shorter. Black Adder, Black Adder, he rides a pitch black steed. Black Adder, Black Adder, he's very bad indeed. Black: his gloves of finest mole, Black: his codpiece made of metal, His horse is blacker than a vole, His pot is blacker than his kettle. Black Adder, Black Adder, with many an cunning plan. Black Adder, Black Adder, you horrid little man. |
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Jul 2007
Tennessee
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/82091ec2-5...44feabdc0.html
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
2D7F16 Posts |
Thanks for the the update, AES ... sounds like Venezuela is attempting to deploy weapons of mass financial destruction. Ironic that they used forged U.S. bearer bonds, because the chief purveyor of WMfDs over the past decade has been none other than the U.S., with its exporting of fraudulently valued and rated debt securities across the globe.
---------------- I had a lively discussion yesterday with some of the locals at the coffee shop I frequent most weekends, about the state of the economy (real and alleged), the California too-big-to-bail insolvency, the Obama approach to the economy, etc. One of the debaters tried to argue that with respect to the economy, “perception is reality”. After facetiously suggesting he tell one of the millions of folks who lost their jobs in the past year that, I thought about this on and off for much of the rest of the day. There is some truth to it, in the sense that irrational optimism or pessimism can feed on themselves and create a self-fulfilling prophecy, at least in the short run … as the Greenspan bubble era showed, if one is willing to allow leverage to grow virtually without limit “the short run” can even extend to a decade or more. But in the end reality always asserts itself. It was then that this response to the green-and-shooty crowd occurred to me: “Perception is reality that has not yet been marked to market.” US To Trade Gold Reserves For Cash Through Cash4Gold.com | The Onion My Comment: Funny video, especially for those of us who have to endure the barrage of (real) Cash4Gold.com ads on cable TV. But we know that the U.S. Government would never have to resort to the desperate remedy of doing business with a scam outfit like Cah4Gold because when they need cash, they can raise it the old-fashioned honest way, by ... printing it up in truckloads. (These days they don`t even need genuine old-fashioned printing presses or trucks - a few keystrokes by Ben Bernanke or one of his authorized Representatives at the Federal Reserve suffice.) Goldman to make record bonus payout Quote:
And speaking of all things Goldman "Shadow U.S. Government" Sachs, Mish comments on whether the recent surge in commodity prices points to hyperinflation, and regular Mish commentator Black Swan opines as to whether the powers that be are betting on (or in the case of the Fed, actively trying to bring about) hyperinflation: Quote:
California: The Long Road to Insolvency Insofar as my home state of California is the national poster child for out-of-control, unsustainable state spending and is now hugely, catastrophically insolvent (and has many other states hard on its heels in the race toward the Day of Financial Reckoning), I plan to make this "how did we get here, exactly?" a quasi-regular series. I`ve been reading Jared Diamond`s bestseller Collapse the past several weekends, and the parallels between societal collapse resulting from environmental recklessness (overexploiting limited natural resources, letting population grow explosively during bumper-harvest years, etc) and that resulting from unsustainable financial policies are striking... California Pension hike of a decade ago backfires | The Sacramento Bee Quote:
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Dec 2008
Boycotting the Soapbox
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It's also a misconception that people only have to be 'optimistic about the economy' in order for things to improve (which is probably the motivation for all the 'hope'-hype), as this not only confuses correlation with causation (people tend to be a good mood when business is booming), but also post hoc ergo procter hoc (i.e. Granger-causalty) with actual causality. After all, people have the ability to anticipate economic changes to a certain extent by using information that is practically impossible to measure, like being able to judge likelihoods of doing business in several months with clients, since it takes time to get the details sorted out. |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Stocks, Commodities Fall as World Bank Sees 2.9% Contraction; Dollar Gains: U.S. and European stocks tumbled, extending losses from the first weekly decline for global equities in more than a month, as the World Bank said the recession will be deeper than previously forecast. Treasuries rose, while oil fell below $67 a barrel and metals slumped.
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But, my, that wasn`t very green-and-shooty of those naughty doomsayers at the World Bank. They must have not have gotten any of those "confidence inspiring" motivational memos from the aforementioned sources. I heard some cynics comment that this might be an orchestrated "market scare" ploy on the part of the U.S. Treasury to scare investors into buying some of the the unprecedented flood of debt that coming up for issue, but that sounds a bit fanciful. Nobel Economist Phelps Says Americans May Take 15 Years to Restore Wealth: U.S. households may take as long as 15 years to rebuild wealth lost in the recession, said Columbia University professor Edmund Phelps, winner of the Nobel Prize in economics in 2006. Quote:
"U.S. households may take as long as 15 years to rebuild real wealth equivalent to the fictitious paper 'wealth' (i.e. inflated valuation of homes and equities fueled by credit expansion) created during the Greenspan bubble era." We also need a suitably pithy name for a person who thought they had achieved a measure of wealth based on said fictitious valuations ... "Baby Boom-and-Bust-er"? Or perhaps "Bubble-onian"? Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2009-06-23 at 00:13 |
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Jul 2007
Tennessee
25·19 Posts |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/23/democrats-strike-deal-massive-climate/
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
7×137 Posts |
Is greed the real driver for a person to become CEO of a company?
Most CEO's get a basic salary and then 'incentives' such as stock options, bonuses, and perks such as a corporate jet to travel in. I question some of these things because they have become such a waste of money for cash strapped companies. Here is a case in point for Nortel. Nortel has laid off about 5000 employees in the last 6 months. Since Nortel declared bankruptcy, this means they were terminated with no severance of any kind. Nortel finances were then sufficient to show a reasonable profit for the first quarter of the year at which point employee bonuses were paid. The reason given for the bonuses was to 'retain' crucial employees. Now I may not have the best motives in the world and I like a bonus as much as anyone else, but you would think they would at least try to find a way to do something for the people who were terminated. If a person is hired to work for his salary, that salary is supposed to be the motive for staying on the job, not the bonus. The excuse the executives give is that they 'need' the bonus to stay on the job. Something is backward about this! Maybe it is time we said to the executives that just doing their job is not a reason for a bonus and if they do not like that, then go for it, see if you can find a job elsewhere. DarJones |
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