Marriage and other LGBTQ Rights

[firejuggler]

*joking *what? liberty is kissing passionately a blindfolded women?

i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.

[chappy]

Originally Posted by jasong

Homosexuality is destructive because it is against God. If it suddenly became a sin to use Firefox, then using Firefox would be destructive because it would be "against God."

Homosexuality is destructive if and only if it is actually destructive. Your example of Firefox is perfect, since any G-d that would declare Firefox use as a sin is obviously focused on the wrong things and therefore not worth my time/effort/belief.

Originally Posted by jasong

I could just as easily argue that the damage against those little girls I molested when I was a teenager was 100% from society, since the problem had nothing to do with forcible rape or any sort of kidnapping.

You could try that argument, I suppose. And I suppose we could weigh the pros and cons of a destructive sexual relationship (just look at the bitterness it has caused in you!) against the genuinely beautiful loving relationships among consenting adults. I calculate that you will not like the answers we come up with.

Originally Posted by jasong

Sometimes things are immoral simply because God says they are immoral.

See above but also that is just nonsensical even from a Christian viewpoint (at least once you are past 3rd grade Sunday School). The 10 commandments (neither version of them) are supposed to be "because I said so's" They are supposed to point toward a better way to live. Setting aside the fact that the ritual transgressions get completely ignored by Jesus when he is asked by the crowds. Remember he, like this forum, was a reciprocity kind of guy.

Originally Posted by jasong

Oh, and in regards to that "ancient book." It only makes sense if you believe it was written by people and that God doesn't exist. So instead of being a mis-leading bastard, be honest and say you don't believe in God. Because if God wrote the book, the knowledge is infinitely old, rather than thousands of years old.

There's a whole thread on this forum where you and I have interacted a bit wherein I have made it abundantly clear my views on the subject--no mis-leading involved, though probably bastardy was. I don't even notice it anymore. But just in case you missed it those times, or this time, or this time, perhaps once again: I do not believe in anything that can't be Thumped. It's true that we don't know all the ways to Thump things yet, but that is a matter for smarter people and future generations. When Science knows everything it will stop.

[xilman]

Originally Posted by jasong

[sarcasm]Quick, fetch me a 15-year old girl, I've been in denial too long.[/sarcasm]

Stop being so lazy and expecting everyone to do your work for you.

Head off to Spain where the age of consent is 13.

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by firejuggler

*joking *what? liberty is kissing passionately a blindfolded women?

i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.

But you see, not knowing is what makes it so interesting. <3

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by firejuggler

i know it's supposed to be 'liberty' and ' justice'. But i'm sure Justice' would want to see who is kissing her.

Like many blind people, Justice observes just fine without sight.

Or, at least, many of them do, and she is supposed to....

[kladner]

Originally Posted by xilman

Stop being so lazy and expecting everyone to do your work for you.

Head off to Spain where the age of consent is 13.

ZAP!

Well said, Sir! Right to the point in more ways than one.

And Jason, am I to understand that your transgression twenty-plus years ago involved you at seventeen and a girl of fifteen? I don't think that is universally illegal even in this hidebound country. For sure, you're nowhere near Jerry Lee Lewis territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_L...age_to_a_minor

[chappy]

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/07/p...f-gay-couples/

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by chappy

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/07/p...f-gay-couples/

Pat Robertson is stupid.

IMO.

[chappy]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/0...r-federal-law/

Christie dodges the bullet of having to act against a large portion of his constituents. Now he can wait a month and blame the courts.

[Xyzzy]

The thought process in this image is vaguely related to this thread:

[Brian-E]

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

The thought process in this image is vaguely related to this thread:

The bigger picture always puts things into perspective, doesn't it? Those who can handle such ultimate truths should make the effort and enlarge the image.