Marriage and other LGBTQ Rights

[jasong]

Originally Posted by ewmayer

@JasonG:

Dude, that is some seriously offensive stuff ... but at the very least do us the tiny courtesy of confining your inane commentary to the nearby thread dedicated to such matters. Also, unless you're speaking from personal experience re. prison, I suggest "talk is cheap", so unless you've actually taken a "prison vacation", you should just STFU.

With all due respect, I think I'd suffer more than the average homosexual in such a situation, so right back at you with the STFU.

[jasong]

Originally Posted by Brian-E

Denying the existence of something which in most people's view quite obviously occurs - in this case homosexual orientation - suggests to me that the person is suffering from being "in denial". It does not take much intuition to think of a possible reason why someone might be in denial about this issue. I feel very sorry for Justice Scalia's son if my hunch is correct.

[sarcasm]Quick, fetch me a 15-year old girl, I've been in denial too long.[/sarcasm]

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by jasong

With all due respect, I think I'd suffer more than the average homosexual in such a situation, so right back at you with the STFU.

I get the sense that your real fear may well be that you'd find yourself proven wrong on the above point. Especially since "healthy sexual relationship with a woman in the biblically-prescribed fashion" is apparently not on your menu of life choices.

[chappy]

I was working my way back through this thread, 1) to give myself time to not reply to Jasong they way I normally would and 2) to look for a particular posting that I want to quote--I still haven't found it, when I happened upon this particular bit of genius on my part:

http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=724

Boom! Nailed it. I should have stuck with my legal career. and Where the the heck is Zeta?

[chappy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/us...nted=all&_r=1&

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23159390

[kladner]

Originally Posted by chappy

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/us...nted=all&_r=1&

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23159390

Thanks for the interesting history.

[Brian-E]

Originally Posted by chappy

[...]Boom! Nailed it. I should have stuck with my legal career[...]

...and congratulations. You do indeed seem to have correctly predicted the outcome of the ruling on DOMA.

[Fusion_power]

The broader question in this thread is "Should government legislate morality?" There are huge differences in the way married people are treated legally vs the treatment of couples who are living together. This is so embedded in the laws and "culture" of our society that the strike down of DOMA alone is not enough to erase the bias.

I don't accept homosexuality but at the same time, I don't believe that I should be telling anyone how to live their life. My position comes down to saying that LESS government meddling in moral issues is better.

[chappy]

http://www.out.com/entertainment/art...oycott-begins#

Boycotts are rarely successful and I feel like I've already given up on delicious salty chicken sandwiches for the cause...can't we just all get along?

[chappy]

Originally Posted by jasong

With all due respect, I think I'd suffer more than the average homosexual in such a situation, so right back at you with the STFU.

Once again you show that you have no clue about normal adult sexual relations. Understandable I suppose, but sad given the many gentle nudges (and not so gentle nudges) toward a little bit of understanding or empathy of others.

[sarcasm]Quick, fetch me a 15-year old girl, I've been in denial too long.[/sarcasm]

Again you seem to completely miss the point.

[Xyzzy]

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