LLRnet servers for NPLB

[mdettweiler]

Gary, your network seems to be down again; I can't access the http://nplb-gb1.no-ip.org/llrnet/ page.

[IronBits]

Ya, crap-O-la, can't get your stats .csv file either
We took a power hit around here this afternoon, but it only lasted about 1 minute (whew!)
I'll be installing my killer TrippLite HTR15-2U UPS tomorrow, that I forgot I brought with me from Calif. /bangs head

[gd_barnes]

Originally Posted by mdettweiler

Gary, your network seems to be down again; I can't access the http://nplb-gb1.no-ip.org/llrnet/ page.

Max,

I'm at a complete loss here. This is above the low level of technical knowhow that I have. The machine is working great, I have full internet access on all machines including the server machine, the servers are in their usual state when they are running perfectly except that nothing is happening, and all of my machines are chugging away great against port 5000 so it's clearly nothing with my internet connection. I tried running a candidate against port 4000 and nothing.

I checked the no-ip.org site, checked my account, verified that nplb-gb1.no-ip.org is still a valid domain for me and it is. I also tried to connect remotely to the server machine from my laptop and no luck. It says that the nplb-gb1.no-ip.org site timed out without connecting.

The weather here today has been decent; no gusty winds and no storms like there were late last night.

It HAS to be something with nplb-gb1.no-ip.org or the SSH commands that get this whole remote process started.

I can try killing the server and restarting it but want to wait to hear from you before doing that. I doubt that would help as it seems to be "further up the chain" at the no-ip site.

You'll have to step me through this one. I'm baffled. Why do I all of a sudden seem to be having all of these problems?

Ian and anyone else that has been connected to port 4000, I would suggest moving your machines to port 5000 for now to help catch it up with the other 2 drives.


Gary

[mdettweiler]

Originally Posted by gd_barnes

Max,

I'm at a complete loss here. This is above the low level of technical knowhow that I have. The machine is working great, I have full internet access on all machines including the server machine, the servers are in their usual state when they are running perfectly except that nothing is happening, and all of my machines are chugging away great against port 5000 so it's clearly nothing with my internet connection. I tried running a candidate against port 4000 and nothing.

I checked the no-ip.org site, checked my account, verified that nplb-gb1.no-ip.org is still a valid domain for me and it is. I also tried to connect remotely to the server machine from my laptop and no luck. It says that the nplb-gb1.no-ip.org site timed out without connecting.

The weather here today has been decent; no gusty winds and no storms like there were late last night.

It HAS to be something with nplb-gb1.no-ip.org or the SSH commands that get this whole remote process started.

I can try killing the server and restarting it but want to wait to hear from you before doing that. I doubt that would help as it seems to be "further up the chain" at the no-ip site.

You'll have to step me through this one. I'm baffled. Why do I all of a sudden seem to be having all of these problems?

Ian and anyone else that has been connected to port 4000, I would suggest moving your machines to port 5000 for now to help catch it up with the other 2 drives.


Gary

Hmm...I think I've figured it out! It looks like the problem is at the No-IP site--I've verified that I *can* access the server pages just fine by going directly to http://70.94.216.222/llrnet/ (your most recent IP address as I can see by clicking the little computer icon next to your post that moderators have access to).

However, since you have a dynamic IP (which is why we're using the No-IP thing in the first place anyway), your IP address (70.94.216.222) could change at any time, without warning. Thus, though I can use it to submit some results that were stuck in queue from my quad, I would recommend that users still switch to other servers in the meantime.

I'd already switched my quad (the only machine I have on G4000 at the time) over to C6000 a couple of hours ago so I'm good on that count. I don't have time to mess with it right now, but maybe I can switch it over to IB5000 tomorrow if that's the top priority.

Gary, can you verify that your No-IP client is still running on your desktop? (I think that's the machine you have it installed on, right?) The problem seems to be that No-IP hasn't updated your most recent IP address change as it should--thus pointing to a problem either in your No-IP client software, or on No-IP's end.

Max

[gd_barnes]

Originally Posted by mdettweiler

Hmm...I think I've figured it out! It looks like the problem is at the No-IP site--I've verified that I *can* access the server pages just fine by going directly to http://70.94.216.222/llrnet/ (your most recent IP address as I can see by clicking the little computer icon next to your post that moderators have access to).

However, since you have a dynamic IP (which is why we're using the No-IP thing in the first place anyway), your IP address (70.94.216.222) could change at any time, without warning. Thus, though I can use it to submit some results that were stuck in queue from my quad, I would recommend that users still switch to other servers in the meantime.

I'd already switched my quad (the only machine I have on G4000 at the time) over to C6000 a couple of hours ago so I'm good on that count. I don't have time to mess with it right now, but maybe I can switch it over to IB5000 tomorrow if that's the top priority.

Gary, can you verify that your No-IP client is still running on your desktop? (I think that's the machine you have it installed on, right?) The problem seems to be that No-IP hasn't updated your most recent IP address change as it should--thus pointing to a problem either in your No-IP client software, or on No-IP's end.

Max

I'm confused as usual. I went to the no-IP site and it had 70.94.216.38 in the IP address so I changed it to 70.94.216.222...still no luck connecting to port 4000.

I don't know how to tell whether the No-IP client is running on my Windows desktop. Should there be something in the task manager that shows up? You are correct, I THINK that it what I installed it on but can't be sure. I installed an awful lot of stuff on my laptop related to the remote access stuff also.

But I still don't understand...yes, 70.94.216.38 WAS my Windows desktop and 70.94.216.222 is NOW my Windows desktop, as I observed by remembering which past posts I posted here from my my Windows desktop and looking at the little computers in the posts, but why is it that that can change and how can we make no-IP change right along with it?

We can't just be having the IP on my computers change and it causing people not to be able to connect to my server. If it is going to do that, as far as I'm concerned, my server is no good at all and should not be used by others because this could happen at any time.

Frankly, I'm really sick of this stuff. I have 2 teeny internet blips, one day out of the last 2-3 months and it's now meant several hours of outages combined over 3 occassions on my server. That is unacceptable in my opinion.

BTW this post is also from my Windows desktop.


Gary

[IronBits]

when you use no-ip.info you *must* use a program that updates no-ip whenever there is an IP change, usually every time you turn off/on the modem, or when ever your ISP decides to change it.

http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php get yer download and install it ;)

The other thing you can do is ask your ISP for a permanent IP, might cost you a couple extra dollars, not a biggy...

[gd_barnes]

Originally Posted by IronBits

when you use no-ip.info you *must* use a program that updates no-ip whenever there is an IP change, usually every time you turn off/on the modem, or when ever your ISP decides to change it.

http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php get yer download and install it ;)

Good gawd, I've already installed enough crap for this stuff. I spent literally hours fiddling and messing with IP addresses and I didn't even set up the server itself. Max did that.

Max, help me out here. Didn't we do something like this before? Is this another step in this extremely painful process of running a server?

Regardless, I changed nplb-gb1.no-ip.org to point to 70.94.216.222, which should be correct now. How come I still can't connect to port 4000?


Gary

[gd_barnes]

Well, what do you know, people can now connect to port 4000 and connect to the http://nplb-gb1.no-ip.org/llrnet/ site! Sorry folks...just another one of those things called "Murphy's law".

Changing my no-ip.org account to point to 70.94.216.222 did the trick.

Thanks for the help Max and David!

David, I'll try downloading that program that automatically updates no-ip whenever there is an IP change...just another piece of the puzzle. Bleh! Hopefully it will be user friendly enough that it'll be easy to set up and use after downloading.

One thing is strange though: It was yesterday that I pulled my cable out of the wall, disconnected my modem, waited a minute, and then plugged them back in as a result of the 2 internet blips that I had. I suspect that is what caused the IP to change. What I don't get is why it took a day for it to either (1) Change the IP address (2) For no-ip to have a problem with the new IP address?

Edit: I just downloaded the above program and it was easy to set up and use. I think I may have downloaded this before and I now know why I couldn't tell if it was on my Windows desktop. It's because my Windows desktop was the one that got the virus a month or so back so I had to reinstall the operating system but didn't remember every little thing that I previously downloaded on to it. I believe this was one of those things that I missed.

Sheesh, talk about murphy's law in action...virus a month ago, resinstall O.S. not realizing I needed to reinstall no-ip updater stuff, 2 internet blips, disconnect/reconnect cable and modem, IP address changes, no-ip doesn't change it because I haven't reinstalled no-ip automatic updater, servers/gb1.no-ip site go down because IP address hasn't changed at no-ip, change no-ip site to correct IP address, doesn't work right away so I'm wondering if I've done the right thing, then finally works after 10 mins, and finally re-download the no-ip automatic updater. That was an extremely nasty circle.

I hope this is all done now and no more viruses! lol

Edit2: If people are bold, they can try moving back to port 4000. I still fully believe this will be a stable server at this point and in the future. My internet connection really has been quite stable over the past year.


Gary

[MyDogBuster]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I still can't connect to G4000.

I left my slowest laptop connected to it and it is still not working. I stopped and restarted LLRNET and that didn't do the trick either.

[IronBits]

DNS servers have to be updated as well... could take a few hours for that to happen globally.

[gd_barnes]

Originally Posted by MyDogBuster

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I still can't connect to G4000.

I left my slowest laptop connected to it and it is still not working. I stopped and restarted LLRNET and that didn't do the trick either.

Well, isn't that strange? Now I can't connect to port 4000 nor to http://nplb-gb1.no-ip.org/llrnet/ either even after I successfully ran a k/n pair and connected to the site over an hour ago.

Servers and IP address stuff never fail to baffle me. Help Max!


Gary