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jinydu · 2004-06-10, 01:54

It seems that only the first few pages are devoted to history, while the rest seems to look like a proof. However, I can't find "QED" anywhere in the document.

jinydu · 2004-06-10, 05:34

There is a brief article about this alleged proof on the front page of Mathworld:

"Riemann Hypothesis "Proof" Much Ado About Noithing

A June 8 Purdue University news release reports a proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by L. de Branges. However, both the 23-page preprint cited in the release (which is actually from 2003) and a longer preprint from 2004 on de Branges's home page seem to lack an actual proof. Furthermore, a counterexample to de Branges's approach due to Conrey and Li has been known since 1998. The media coverage therefore appears to be much ado about nothing."

Fusion_power · 2004-06-10, 23:25

Its not quite "much ado about nothing". I barely comprehend a fourth of the information in the Riemann zeta functions. A year ago, I would have been lost after the first step or two.

I sense that he is publishing a new paper because he anticipates a competing proof from someone else.

One of the interesting facets is the overlap with the structure of electron shells in atoms. I wonder, are we close to a "unified fields" theory of mathematics and space/time?

Fusion

PrimeCroat · 2004-06-11, 19:34

Link to New Scientist article, June 11 2004: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995104

jinydu · 2004-06-12, 06:35

There's a thread about this in the Math section.

kd7dvd · 2004-07-16, 01:09

good book outlining the history of the problem. includes bio material on de Branges and other people who have worked on the problem. written by a non-mathemetician, so if you want technical details, stick with de Branges' website. (the book does include a synopsis of de Branges' proof as an appendix. it still looks impenetrable

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg.../-/0374529353/

Fusion_power · 2004-12-03, 06:56

Methinks that somehow this person has missed the entire point of the Reimann hypothesis. He spends quite a bit of time discussing what must be a Ulam spiral yet doesn't seem to realize that proving RH is to show that all values of z for which zeta(z) = 0 are of the form 1/2 * i y.

http://www.sciencechat.org/Ive_claim...37-4347-a.html

Superorder anyone? or lack thereof?

Fusion

jinydu · 2004-12-03, 23:38

I agree. The author seems to think that the Riemann Hypothesis is just some vague statement that the primes have a hidden order. He doesn't seem to understand that the Riemann Hypothesis is a precise statement about the zeroes of the Riemann Zeta Function.

jinydu · 2004-12-04, 17:42

Still, I thought that the reply to that person's post was just as pointless, if not more so. Whining about spelling will do little more than annoy the original poster. Thus, I posted my own reply there, but it seems I may have been several days too late.

Primeinator · 2005-09-09, 20:20

^^refer to the extremely long title.

Does anyone here know a few good sources I could go to, such as web pages, books, etc, that would provide good information on the state topics? I'm doing a research thesis for history class, but references to today's society are needed. The paper is only supposed to be 1500-2000 words. Can anyone make some suggestions?

Thanks,
Kyle

cheesehead · 2005-09-10, 01:10

Impact of obscure math on society. Hmmm ...

Well, there are the earlier examples of practical applications of special relativity (a consideration in designing CRT TV electron guns, and then there's the bomb thing), Boolean algebra (computers), and the difficulty of factoring products of large primes (crypto). But how that applies to your quest for sources, I don't know.

2004-06-11, 19:34	#15
PrimeCroat Feb 2004 California 3² Posts	A French mathematician claiming that he has proved the Riemann hypothesis is true Link to New Scientist article, June 11 2004: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995104

2004-07-16, 01:09	#17
kd7dvd May 2004 Seattle, Washington, US 2³ Posts	Sabbagh, Karl: "The Riemann Hypothesis - the greatest unsolved problem...(2002)" good book outlining the history of the problem. includes bio material on de Branges and other people who have worked on the problem. written by a non-mathemetician, so if you want technical details, stick with de Branges' website. (the book does include a synopsis of de Branges' proof as an appendix. it still looks impenetrable http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg.../-/0374529353/

2004-12-03, 06:56	#18
Fusion_power Aug 2003 Snicker, AL 7·137 Posts	Another Reimann proof? Methinks that somehow this person has missed the entire point of the Reimann hypothesis. He spends quite a bit of time discussing what must be a Ulam spiral yet doesn't seem to realize that proving RH is to show that all values of z for which zeta(z) = 0 are of the form 1/2 * i y. http://www.sciencechat.org/Ive_claim...37-4347-a.html Superorder anyone? or lack thereof? Fusion

2005-09-09, 20:20	#21
Primeinator "Kyle" Feb 2005 Somewhere near M50..sshh! 2×3×149 Posts	Impact of the PvsNP problem and the Riemann hypothesis on today's society ^^refer to the extremely long title. Does anyone here know a few good sources I could go to, such as web pages, books, etc, that would provide good information on the state topics? I'm doing a research thesis for history class, but references to today's society are needed. The paper is only supposed to be 1500-2000 words. Can anyone make some suggestions? Thanks, Kyle

2005-09-10, 01:10	#22
cheesehead "Richard B. Woods" Aug 2002 Wisconsin USA 2²·3·641 Posts	Impact of obscure math on society. Hmmm ... Well, there are the earlier examples of practical applications of special relativity (a consideration in designing CRT TV electron guns, and then there's the bomb thing), Boolean algebra (computers), and the difficulty of factoring products of large primes (crypto). But how that applies to your quest for sources, I don't know. Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2005-09-10 at 01:13

2004-06-10, 01:54	#12
jinydu Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 2×3×293 Posts	It seems that only the first few pages are devoted to history, while the rest seems to look like a proof. However, I can't find "QED" anywhere in the document.

2004-06-10, 05:34	#13
jinydu Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 2×3×293 Posts	There is a brief article about this alleged proof on the front page of Mathworld: "Riemann Hypothesis "Proof" Much Ado About Noithing A June 8 Purdue University news release reports a proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by L. de Branges. However, both the 23-page preprint cited in the release (which is actually from 2003) and a longer preprint from 2004 on de Branges's home page seem to lack an actual proof. Furthermore, a counterexample to de Branges's approach due to Conrey and Li has been known since 1998. The media coverage therefore appears to be much ado about nothing."

2004-06-10, 23:25	#14
Fusion_power Aug 2003 Snicker, AL 7·137 Posts	Its not quite "much ado about nothing". I barely comprehend a fourth of the information in the Riemann zeta functions. A year ago, I would have been lost after the first step or two. I sense that he is publishing a new paper because he anticipates a competing proof from someone else. One of the interesting facets is the overlap with the structure of electron shells in atoms. I wonder, are we close to a "unified fields" theory of mathematics and space/time? Fusion

2004-06-12, 06:35	#16
jinydu Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 2×3×293 Posts	There's a thread about this in the Math section.

2004-12-03, 23:38	#19
jinydu Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 2·3·293 Posts	I agree. The author seems to think that the Riemann Hypothesis is just some vague statement that the primes have a hidden order. He doesn't seem to understand that the Riemann Hypothesis is a precise statement about the zeroes of the Riemann Zeta Function.

2004-12-04, 17:42	#20
jinydu Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 11011011110₂ Posts	Still, I thought that the reply to that person's post was just as pointless, if not more so. Whining about spelling will do little more than annoy the original poster. Thus, I posted my own reply there, but it seems I may have been several days too late.

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