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Old 2021-01-30, 19:17   #122
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Also it's worth considering an end to issue of first-time LL via PrimeNet or in general.
Absolutely. Any software that is capable of PRP/certs and is asking for FTC LL's should get PRP's. Any software that is capable of PRP win no cert, and asking for FTC's should get PRP DCs until those that are done, then Cat 4 PRP. Any software that can't do PRP's that requests FTCs should get DC's. FTC LL should not be available via manual assignments.
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Old 2021-01-30, 23:12   #123
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A FTC assignment in mprime / prime95 will first do P-1 on an exponent if it is not adequately done already, and memory available is adequate, and the exponent could get stalled or abandoned while in P-1 or LL or PRP.

A TF assignment in whatever can get delayed. Such an assignment ought not delay progress on a wavefront exponent indefinitely, especially when it is an unneeded, past-optimal-bit-depth, manual TF.
Fully support your above post, and particularly the quoted paragraphs.

Also, keep in mind that a great deal of the Cat 0/1 Assignments is going to Ben, who is doing P-1 where appropriate extremely well.

I've personally been bringing my small amount of CPU compute to bear cleaning up candidates who had a FC done without doing the P-1. Not sure how long I'll be able to sustain that for.
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Old 2021-02-02, 23:49   #124
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Manual P-1 assignments in cat 0 and some in cat 1 now have one month to complete their work.

I do not have a P-1 expiration rule for prime95 reserved exponents.
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Old 2021-02-03, 01:16   #125
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Manual P-1 assignments in cat 0 and some in cat 1 now have one month to complete their work.
Copy. Thanks.

What about TF'ers? If you're not serious, please don't play.

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I do not have a P-1 expiration rule for prime95 reserved exponents.
Shouldn't be a huge problem.

There be sharp-shooters around these-here-parts. Eh?
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Old 2021-02-03, 02:13   #126
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What about TF'ers? If you're not serious, please don't play.
I added a warning on the manual assignments page that TF and P-1 at the leading edge may be subject to a 30 day expiration.

Easy to include TF in the latest rule to also include TF. I'd like to coordinate with GPU72 before implementing -- make sure GPU72 can't hand out one of these exponents or has a suitable warning.

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Old 2021-02-03, 03:53   #127
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I'd like to coordinate with GPU72 before implementing -- make sure GPU72 can't hand out one of these exponents or has a suitable warning.
Yes, let's please have that conversation.

GPU72 has always operated at the sufferance of the policies of Primenet. Since day one GPU72 TF assignments have been given 30 days to complete. P-1 assignments 60.

We're somewhat patient when an assignment is overdue. But only when the assignee is showing reasonable efforts in completing what they've taken.

TL;DR: If Primenet got more serious about expiring assignments clearly abandoned (and also only assigned for FCs that have been appropriately TF'ed), it would make sense for GPU72 to release candidates for others to TF.

I'm thinking of, for example, 106M through 108M inclusive. Plus some of 104M and 105M.

Or, whatever people decide makes sense.

Thoughts?
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Old 2021-02-17, 00:13   #128
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174 TF assignments in Cat 0........lets hope they finish fast:

https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...hk=1&exfirst=1
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Old 2021-02-17, 00:31   #129
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Most are already TF to 75; goal is 76. Most are P-1 only to ~1.5M or less stage 1 only. And every one I checked already had a first primality test reported (nearly all LL not PRP, many by curtisc), about a year ago. There's no rush to finish TF to adequate limits and P-1 to adequate limits before the DC that will come years from now.

They appear to be not delaying first-test milestone, nor DC milestone.
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Old 2021-02-17, 02:32   #130
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And every one I checked already had a first primality test reported (nearly all LL not PRP, many by curtisc), about a year ago.
I had noticed this a while back and did not bring them up. I am currently working on P-1's that are over a month old with no progress in the Cat 0 and low Cat 1 area.
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Manual P-1 assignments in cat 0 and some in cat 1 now have one month to complete their work.

I do not have a P-1 expiration rule for prime95 reserved exponents.
Seems backwards to me.
Manual assignments generally have a more committed human in the loop. Including the gpu crew.
PrimeNet is prone to people who sign up, try GIMPS, and abandon it; and systems whose mprime or prime95 fail, unknown to the user who set it up for unattended running.

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So, 11 of the 29 exponents below 106M are P-1 assignments. 9 are well more than a month old. Anton Evers hasn't had any progress in basically 45 days. Why can't P-1 in Cat 1 and Cat 0 have the Cat 1 expiry rules apply?

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105420479	PM1-L			4	2021-08-13	2021-10-11	2021-10-12	2021-10-17	Kamil Mudrunka
105524231	PM1-L			-3	2021-08-13	2021-09-26	2021-09-27	2021-10-10	FCG Primes
105676691	PM1-L	S2, 13.90%	-6	2021-08-23	2021-10-06	2021-10-11	2021-10-07	HardyP Germany
105677149	PM1-L	S2, 9.40%	-6	2021-08-23	2021-10-06	2021-10-11	2021-10-07	HardyP Germany
105747127	PM1-L			-43	2021-08-28	2021-08-29	2021-08-30	2021-08-31	Anton Evers
105755803	PM1-L			-42	2021-08-29	2021-08-29	2021-08-30	2021-09-01	Anton Evers
105760729	PM1-L			-42	2021-08-29	2021-08-29	2021-08-30	2021-09-01	Anton Evers
105769453	PM1-L			-41	2021-08-29	2021-08-29	2021-08-30	2021-09-02	Anton Evers
105772409	PM1-L			-41	2021-08-30	2021-08-30	2021-08-31	2021-09-02	Anton Evers
105576703	PM1-L	S1, 41.20%	1	2021-10-09	2021-10-13	2021-10-14	2021-10-14	AnthonyRais
105628987	PM1-L			0	2021-10-09	2021-10-13	2021-10-14	2021-10-13	Simon Josefsson
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