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Old 2010-07-29, 19:00   #1
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is my way to take pollution out of the air and recreate the oil we have burned.

the Xprize people have offered a challenge through coverage on CNN for ideas to stop the oil spill.

any ideas. they are offering 1.4 million i think(check the xprize website).
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Old 2010-07-30, 06:05   #2
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is my way to take pollution out of the air and recreate the oil we have burned.
Why don't you show the net energy flow?
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Why don't you show the net energy flow?
I'm not a science major
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If we take the oil burning exhaust products and try to put them back together and re-form the oil then we also have to put back in the energy that was released by the burning. There is no free lunch here.

Oil does have a useful storage model. Easier to store long term than electricity. But making it in the first place is tricky. It took nature millions of years to store the sun's light energy in the form of oil. It takes us only tens of years to release all that energy again. If we were to find some way of recombining all the exhaust products (say with solar energy) then the only reason to do it would be for storage. Since if we wanted to use that energy immediately then it would be better to generate electricity directly and avoid the intermediate stage of making oil and re-burning.
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I said nothing of reburning did I ?
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I said nothing of reburning did I ?
Why else would you want to recreate the oil? There appears to be no other rational reason to recreate oil when instead we could do many other more useful things with the energy instead.

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Why else would you want to recreate the oil? There appears to be no other rational reason to recreate oil when instead we could do many other more useful things with the energy instead.
look this thread isn't about that stuff it's about the xprize offer.
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look this thread isn't about that stuff it's about the xprize offer.
The oil spill problem is not about replacing the lost oil. It is about stopping it from escaping. So in that sense your proposed solution to recreate oil from exhaust products is not going to win you $1.4M.
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look I wasn't saying it was.
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Why don't you show the net energy flow?
I'm not a science major
If you were to study just the basics of energy flows in chemical reactions, you'd find out why your suggestion makes no sense.
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