20180404, 17:42  #1 
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
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N Heads in a Row
Given a coin that lands heads with probability 0 < p < 1, what is the expected number of flips needed to get N heads in a row?
Solve with p = 0.73 and N = 20. Then can someone give a general method / formula based only on p and N? Thanks 
20180404, 18:12  #2 
Dec 2012
The Netherlands
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It's the negative binomial distribution (with parameters N and p).

20180404, 20:01  #3 
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
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Pardon my ignorance but ...
maybe I'm not understanding this right, but it looks like negative binomial distribution is used to determine, for instance, the expected number of tails before a predetermined number of heads, but not necessarily in order 
20180404, 21:34  #4 
Dec 2012
The Netherlands
7·239 Posts 
I think I misunderstood you!
In that case, you can work it out from first principles. Fix a positive integer \(k\geq N\). How many ways are there of throwing \(kN\) times without getting \(N\) heads in a row? What is the probability of each of those possibilities followed by \(N\) consecutive heads? Last fiddled with by Nick on 20180404 at 21:34 Reason: Fixed typo 
20180404, 22:07  #5  
"William"
May 2003
New Haven
3·787 Posts 
Quote:
I'd try an inductive approach on the number of heads. To get one head in a row, the first toss is a head with probability p or a tail with probability (1p). If heads, you are done. If tails, you need the to start over. So X1 = p*1 + (1p)*(X1+1) X1 = 1/p For k in a row, you need k1 in a row, then one more toss either finishes it or starts it over. Xk = p*(X(k1)+1) + (1p)(Xk+X(k1)+1) Xk = X(k1)/p + 1/p The logic of the last equation is conditioned on the results of the flip after first achieving k1 heads. Check that arithmetic  I fixed several errors before posting and might still have some left  but the logic is solid. 

20180404, 23:37  #6 
"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
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Take 1(1p)ⁿ to be the probability of getting heads n times ? Factor in how far you've advanced and find where it hits 50% ?

20180405, 04:53  #7 
"William"
May 2003
New Haven
3·787 Posts 
Oops  this is Homework Help. I had fun working out the inductive equations and their general solution, but I suppose I shouldn't post all that here. So I stand by the previous suggestion that N+1 heads in a row takes N heads in a row plus one more, and then you may be done or you may need to start over. To check your work, I get 2001.6 for p = 0.73 and N = 20.
