Where Will YOU Go To Flee Trumplandia?

kladner · 2016-11-09, 17:17

A friend, who gets rather excited at times, started email bombarding me last night with things like,
"Get Out While You Still Can!!!!!". He does not think the US will be safe for LBGTQ people. When I told him that we already talk about Mexico City as a place to live, he said that might not be far enough.

At that point, I asked him, "So where are we to go? Costa Rica? Kinda pricey, I think.
A female friend spent a few years in Ecuador, and loved it,
[HEAVY SARCASM] but Ecuador is not exactly LGBTQ friendly. [/HEAVY SARCASM]
We loved the Philippines, but a monster is now running the place.
Brazil is totally Batsh!t just now.
Canada, except for Vancouver, is probably a bit cold for my taste. I suspect, without research, that Vancouver might be a bit costly, as well. However, Canada may not be near as cold by the end of King Trump's reign.

So where would you go, if it became a survival issue to get out of the US?

xilman · 2016-11-09, 17:38

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Originally Posted by kladner

So where would you go, if it became a survival issue to get out of the US?

Not go there in the first place.

With the edit s/US/UK/ my honest answer would have to be: anywhere that would have me. Would-be survivors can't afford to be too choosy.

chalsall · 2016-11-09, 17:53

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Originally Posted by kladner

Canada, except for Vancouver, is probably a bit cold for my taste. I suspect, without research, that Vancouver might be a bit costly, as well.

To answer seriously...

Victoria, BC, Canada (the Capital of British Columbia) is much less expensive than Vancouver. Near to Victoria (on Vancouver Island; Saanich or Sooke for example) is even less expensive.

Great Asian food; very pot and LBGTQ friendly. Remember that Canadians cross the road to get to the middle.

CRGreathouse · 2016-11-09, 18:13

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Originally Posted by kladner

So where would you go, if it became a survival issue to get out of the US?

The Kingdom of Swaziland. But Canada's nice too.

petrw1 · 2016-11-09, 20:10

Central Canada; the prairies; especially Saskatchewan.
Granted we can have cold(er) winters but believe it or not our summers are probably better than yours. From about Mid-May to Mid-October we are generally in the 20's to low 30's (oops I mean 70's to 90's) but we do NOT get the stifling humidity; not do we get into the 100's.

No smog; no earthquakes; no tornadoes.

And with global warming (which Trump may be helping along) even our Winters are generally not that bad; by our standards.

Who knows at this rate we may become the vacation capital of the world when the current vacation spots become TOO hot and dry.(I can dream)

kladner · 2016-11-09, 20:15

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Originally Posted by chalsall

To answer seriously...

Victoria, BC, Canada (the Capital of British Columbia) is much less expensive than Vancouver. Near to Victoria (on Vancouver Island; Saanich or Sooke for example) is even less expensive.

Great Asian food; very pot and LBGTQ friendly. Remember that Canadians cross the road to get to the middle.

That is encouraging. Thank you. Victoria is, in fact, the only bit of Canada in which I have set foot. When I was 9 years old, my family traveled by car from South of Houston to Seattle, for the World's Fair. One of our excursions was a ferry ride across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. We walked through Customs at Victoria, and back onto the ferry to return.

Along the way, we saw small, wooded islands. Some of them had a house and a boat dock. My father, who loved peace and quiet, looked longingly and said, "I want one."

chalsall · 2016-11-09, 20:21

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No smog; no earthquakes; no tornadoes.

No lightening strikes. No wildfires?

petrw1 · 2016-11-09, 20:35

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No lightening strikes. No wildfires?

Not as many as you might think (probably less than California) ....and mostly in the Northern half; granted the most beautiful part but not a lot of people live there unless your life revolves around hunting and fishing.

Xyzzy · 2016-11-09, 20:38

We have always wanted to live in the southern France/northern Italy/northern Spain area.

Maybe in our next lifetime.

only_human · 2016-11-09, 23:43

In another life I might have liked living in a Scandinavian country.

fivemack · 2016-11-10, 09:16

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Originally Posted by kladner

So where would you go, if it became a survival issue to get out of the US?

Germany or the Netherlands (same answer holds for 'get out of the UK'). Rich countries with pretty decent employment opportunities, socially very liberal; undramatic weather, cold winters and reasonably warm summers.

Lisbon if you want somewhere warmer and are willing to trade a lower cost of living for significantly worse employment opportunities.

2016-11-09, 17:17	#1
kladner "Kieren" Jul 2011 In My Own Galaxy! 2²·2,539 Posts	Where Will YOU Go To Flee Trumplandia? A friend, who gets rather excited at times, started email bombarding me last night with things like, "Get Out While You Still Can!!!!!". He does not think the US will be safe for LBGTQ people. When I told him that we already talk about Mexico City as a place to live, he said that might not be far enough. At that point, I asked him, "So where are we to go? Costa Rica? Kinda pricey, I think. A female friend spent a few years in Ecuador, and loved it, [HEAVY SARCASM] but Ecuador is not exactly LGBTQ friendly. [/HEAVY SARCASM] We loved the Philippines, but a monster is now running the place. Brazil is totally Batsh!t just now. Canada, except for Vancouver, is probably a bit cold for my taste. I suspect, without research, that Vancouver might be a bit costly, as well. However, Canada may not be near as cold by the end of King Trump's reign. So where would you go, if it became a survival issue to get out of the US? Last fiddled with by kladner on 2016-11-09 at 17:20

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petrw1 1976 Toyota Corona years forever! "Wayne" Nov 2006 Saskatchewan, Canada 4553₁₀ Posts	Central Canada; the prairies; especially Saskatchewan. Granted we can have cold(er) winters but believe it or not our summers are probably better than yours. From about Mid-May to Mid-October we are generally in the 20's to low 30's (oops I mean 70's to 90's) but we do NOT get the stifling humidity; not do we get into the 100's. No smog; no earthquakes; no tornadoes. And with global warming (which Trump may be helping along) even our Winters are generally not that bad; by our standards. Who knows at this rate we may become the vacation capital of the world when the current vacation spots become TOO hot and dry.(I can dream)

2016-11-09, 20:38	#9
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 3²·887 Posts	We have always wanted to live in the southern France/northern Italy/northern Spain area. Maybe in our next lifetime.

2016-11-09, 23:43	#10
only_human "Gang aft agley" Sep 2002 2·1,877 Posts	In another life I might have liked living in a Scandinavian country.