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Old 2019-08-31, 13:00   #122
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Faux News (formerly the "fair and balanced" Propaganda Ministry of the Republican Party) is shocked -- shocked to learn that Il Duce and his vassals sheeple supporters demand utter reverence toward anything he says, no matter how idiotic, disingenuous, mendacious, or delusional it may be.



News flash: The man is a narcissist. This has been well known since forever. Anything even hinting at lack of servility will be met viciously. To expect anything else is to have been keeping your head stuck where the sun don't shine.

Of course, with Faux News, there is the additional comic element that it is now trying to pretend it is actually a news organization. Neil Cavuto actually resurrected the slogan "fair and balanced" which was abandoned in 2017, while pretending to "explain" objective news coverage -- as if the term had any relation to Faux News -- to a narcissist.

Another news flash: Narcissists do think they're entitled to their own facts.
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Old 2019-08-31, 15:03   #123
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I have long preferred "Fux Noise" as a satirical name for the Department of Propaganda. I'm not sure what the WaPo and NYT should be labeled, but they are at least as deserving as FN. They are really more culpable, as they try to maintain more of a veneer of accuracy.
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Old 2019-09-10, 23:21   #124
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The Pentagon Wants to Use DARPA to Police Internet News | Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone
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Once upon a time, when progressives still reflexively distrusted the military, DARPA was a liberal punchline, known for helping invent the Internet but also for developing lunatic privacy-invading projects like LifeLog, a program to “gather in a single place just about everything an individual says, sees, or does.”

DARPA now is developing a semantic analysis program called “SemaFor” and an image analysis program called “MediFor,” ostensibly designed to prevent the use of fake images or text. The idea would be to develop these technologies to help private Internet providers sift through content.

It’s the latest in a string of stories about new methods of control over information flow that should, but for some reason do not, horrify every working journalist.

From the Senate dragging Internet providers to the Hill to demand strategies against the sowing of “discord,” to tales of hundreds of Facebook sites zapped for “coordinated inauthentic behavior” following advice by government-connected groups like the Atlantic Council, it’s been clear the future of the information landscape is going to involve elaborate new forms of algorithmic regulation.

Stories about the need for such technologies are always couched as responses to the “fake news” problem. Unfortunately, “fake news” is a poorly-defined, amorphous concept that the public has been trained to fear without really understanding.

The term surged into public view three years ago. Experts insisted Macedonian troll farms and pranksters like the late Paul Horner (who once conned Fox News into doing a story that Barack Obama was funding a Muslim culture museum) had an enormous impact on Trump’s victory.

Had they? When “fake news” first became “a thing,” as media critic Adam Johnson put it in The Nation three years ago, I was skeptical.

Fake news has a long history in America. Its most pernicious incarnation is never the work of small-time scam artists. The worst “fake news” almost always involves broad-scale deceptions foisted on the public by official (and often unnamed) sources, in conjunction with oligopolistic media companies, usually in service of rallying the public behind a dubious policy objective like a war or authoritarian crackdown.

From the sinking of the Maine in 1898, to rumors of a union-led socialist insurrection before the Palmer raids in 1919, to the Missile Gap in the late fifties and early sixties (here is the CIA’s own website admitting that one was “erroneous”), to the Gulf of Tonkin lie that launched the Vietnam War, to the more recent WMD fiasco, true “fake news” is a concerted, organized, institutional phenomenon that involves deceptions cooked up at the highest levels.
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Old 2019-09-14, 22:46   #125
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It's been a busy week of MSM-dismal-propaganda-raggery - I have no fewer than three separate stories of such for your weekend perusal pleasure:

o How the UK Security Services neutralised the country’s leading liberal newspaper | Daily Maverick: The Guardian, Britain’s leading liberal newspaper with a global reputation for independent and critical journalism, has been successfully targeted by security agencies to neutralise its adversarial reporting of the ‘security state’, according to newly released documents and evidence from former and current Guardian journalists.

o Latest Russian spy story looks like another elaborate media deception | Matt Taibbi: The tale of Oleg Smolenkov is just the latest load of high-level BS dumped on us by intelligence agencies
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When I was 20, I studied at the Leningrad Polytechnical Institute, in the waning days of the Soviet empire. Most of the Russians I met were amusingly free of stress caused by following news. Why would they bother? Bull-factories like Rossiskaya Gazeta and Leningradsaya Pravda were basically collections of dreary government news releases rewritten to sound like news reports.

I saw newspapers in Leningrad shredded into slivers of toilet paper, used in place of curtains in dorm rooms, even stuffed into overcoat linings as insulation. But I can’t recall a Russian person actually reading a Soviet newspaper for the content. That’s how useless its “news” was.

We’re headed to a similar place. The cable networks, along with the New York Times and Washington Post increasingly act like house organs of the government, and in particular the intelligence agencies.

An episode this week involving a tale of a would-be American spy “exfiltrated” from Russia solidifies this impression. Seldom has a news story been more transparently fraudulent.

The story was broken by CNN Monday, September 9th, under the headline, “Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017”:

In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.

CNN’s lede relayed multiple key pieces of information, not one of which was really emphasized in the main of its unconfirmable story:

o America not only had a spy inside Russia’s government, it had multiple spies, with the subject of this particular piece being merely one of America’s “highest level” sources

o The “extraction” was completed “successfully”

o The sources are “multiple Trump administration officials”

The story told us our spy agencies successfully penetrated Russian government at the highest levels (although apparently not well enough to foresee or forestall the election interference campaign the same agencies spent the last three years howling about)...
o Some very nice comparative video forensics here:
How The BBC's Quentin Sommerville Created Fairytales Of Underground Hospitals In Syria | Moon of Alabama
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In August 2013 the BBC produced a fake video headlined "Saving Syria’s Children" about an alleged chemical weapon attack in Syria which it claimed was caused by the Syrian government. Robert Stuart has since pressed the BBC to admit the obvious fabrication of these scenes.

Today the BBC posted on its website another Syria clip under the title Idlib's secret hospitals hiding from air strikes:

Air strikes have been targeting hospitals in the rebel-held province of Idlib, Syria, despite the fact that it is a war crime. Medics have been forced underground in order to survive.

The UN accuses the Syrian government and allied Russian warplanes of conducting a deadly campaign that appears to target medical facilities.

BBC's Middle East correspondent, Quentin Sommerville, visits one hospital in a secret location.

Sommerville starts with standing next to a destroyed building claiming that it has been a hospital that was bombed. He says: "This is the only building that was targeted here."

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It isn't the "only building that was targeted" there. It is the only building that was there. The building is standing within an orchard. There are no other buildings or infrastructure around it. Why would anyone have built a hospital far from a town? There are no signs that building ever was a hospital and is doubtful that it was one...

What is happening here is that the Jihadis, with whom Sommerville traveled and who he rightly says are seen as terrorist even by the 'west', report the coordinates of their headquarters and weapon depots as hospitals. The UN has no way to check their claims. When the Russian or Syrian airforce then bomb those places the Jihadis claim that their hospitals were hit.
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Old 2019-09-26, 12:15   #126
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CNN: The unbiased worldwide news network 24/7. Hahahahahaha. You didn't really believe that did you?

Bruce Schneier occasionally posts essays to CNN, and has this to say about his most recent submission.
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I had a lot of trouble with CNN's legal department with this essay. They were very reluctant to call out the US and its allies for similar behavior, and spent a lot more time adding caveats to statements that I didn't think needed them. They wouldn't let me link to this Intercept article talking about US, French, and German infiltration of supply chains, or even the NSA document from the Snowden archives that proved the statements.
Said by "news" people everywhere: "We need to mould the news into a version that makes us look good and all the other guys look bad. And as long as we claim we are unbiased and truthful then everyone will simply believe us because they are morons."
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Old 2019-09-26, 22:48   #127
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Said by "news" people everywhere: "We need to mould the news into a version that makes us look good and all the other guys look bad. And as long as we claim we are unbiased and truthful then everyone will simply believe us because they are morons."
And so it is, that Roger Ailes proves that "the evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones."
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Old 2019-10-11, 21:59   #128
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"Top Secret" Russian Unit That "Destabilizes Europe" Is A Well Known Small Arms Training Base | Moon of Alabama
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Old 2019-11-05, 21:12   #129
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Manufacturing Fear and Loathing, Maximizing Corporate Profits! A Review of Matt Taibbi's Hate Inc.: Why Today’s Media Makes Us Despise One Another | naked capitalism
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...let me conclude with an anecdote of my own — and an oddly uplifting one at that — about reading Taibbi’s chapter 7, “How the News Media Stole from Pro Wrestling.”

On the same day I read this chapter I saw that, on the bulletin board in my gym, a poster had appeared, as if by magic, promoting an upcoming Primal Conflict (!) professional wrestling event. I studied the photos of the wrestlers on the poster carefully, and, as an astute reader of Taibbi, I prided myself on being able to identify which of them seemed be playing the roles of heels, and which of them the roles of babyfaces.

For Taibbi explains that one of the fundamental dynamics of wrestling involves the invention of crowd-pleasing narratives out of the many permutations and combinations of pitting heels against faces. Donald Trump, a natural heel, brings the goofy dynamics of pro wrestling to American politics with real-life professional expertise. (Taibbi points out that in 2007 Trump actually performed before a huge cheering crowd in a Wrestlemania event billed as the “battle of the billionaires.” Watch it on YouTube! https://youtu.be/5NsrwH9I9vE— unbelievable!!)

The mainstream corporate media, on the other hand, their eyes fixed on ever bigger and bigger profits, have drifted into the metaphorical pro wrestling ring in ignorance, and so, when they face off against Trump, they often end up in the role of inept prudish pearl-clutching faces.

Taibbi condemns the mainstream media’s failure to understand such a massively popular form of American entertainment as “malpractice” (p. 125), so I felt more than obligated to buy a ticket and see the advertised event in person. To properly educate myself, that is.

On the poster in my gym I had paid particular attention to the photo of character named Logan Easton Laroux, who was wearing a sweater tied around his neck and was extending an index finger upwards as if he were summoning a waiter. Ha! I thought. This Laroux chap must be playing the role of an arrogant preppy face. The crowd will delight in his humiliation! I imagined the vile homophobic and even Francophobic abuse to which he would likely be subjected.

On the night of the Primal Conflict event, I intentionally showed up a little bit late, because, to be honest, I was fearing a rough crowd. Pro wrestling in West Virginia, don’t you know. But I was politely greeted and presented with the ticket I had PayPal-ed. I looked over to the ring, and, sure enough, there was Logan Easton Laroux being body-slammed to the mat. Ha! Just the ritual humiliation I anticipated! But I had most certainly not anticipated the sudden display of Primal Conflict wit that ensued. Our plucky Laroux dramatically recovered from his fall and adroitly pinned his opponent as the crowd happily cheered for him, cheered in unison, cheered an apparently rehearsed chant again and again: ONE PER CENT! ONE PER CENT!

So no homophobic obscenities?? Au contraire! Here was a twist in narrative far more nuanced than anything you might read in the New York Times!

Soon enough I realized that this was wholesome family entertainment. The most enthusiastic fans seemed to be the eight- and nine-year-old boys. (A couple of the boys were proudly wearing their Halloween costumes.) There was no smoking, no drinking, no foul language, no sexual innuendo of any sort, and, above all no racial insults — just the opposite: For both the wrestlers and the spectators were a mix of white and black, and the most popular wrestler was a big black guy in an afro wig who “lost” his bout to a white guy who played a cheating sleazebag heel named Quinn. Also, significantly, there was zero police presence, and zero chance of any kind of actual altercation. When the night was over the promoter stood at the exit and shook the hand of and said good-bye and come-back to each of us departing spectators — sort of like, well, a pastor after church in a small southern town as his congregation disperses.

So here I was in the very midst of — to use Hillary Clinton’s contemptuous terminology— the deplorables. But they weren’t the racist misogynistic homophobes Clinton had condemned. The vibe was that everyone liked all the wrestlers, even the ones they had booed, and that everyone pretty much liked each other. During intermission the promoter called out a birthday greeting to a spectator named John. A middle-aged black guy stood up to a round of applause. He was with his wife and kids.

Where was the hate?

In other words, to what extent are the hatreds so hauntingly described by Taibbi largely confined to the same affluent demographic silos in which they are manufactured? To what extent is ignorance of the corporate media — the legacy media — the prestige media — a kind of relative bliss? To put it bluntly, would the United States be, on balance, a better country if tomorrow morning, by the waving of some magic wand, MSNBC and FoxNews both vanished into thin air? And then CNN? And NPR? And the New York Times and the Washington Post too? These hypothetical questions are not at all difficult for a reader of Taibbi to answer.
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Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Accuses Mainstream Media of Erasure | Truthdig
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”In a report about its own poll showing Bernie in first place in New Hampshire,” [Sanders speechwriter] Sirota wrote. “CNN put an inaccurate graphic up showing Bernie in second place.”… Sirota also cited a report by the New York Times claiming that South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg “eclipsed” Sanders—despite the poll the story was based showing Sanders in second place ahead of Buttigieg… Journalist Ken Klippenstein noted the [“Bernie blackout’] phenomenon on Monday in response to the Times poll that showed Warren and Sanders—given the margin of error—statistically tied. The newspaper’s push notification tellingly left Sanders’ name out entirely.
The Onion did some spot-on mockery of the Big Media erasure campaign: MSNBC Poll Finds Support For Bernie Sanders Has Plummeted 2 Points Up
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o Project Censored’s Top 10 stories the mainstream media missed in 2018-2019

o The CIA’s Jack Ryan Series Is ‘Regime-Change’ Propaganda Aimed At Venezuela | Mint Press -- Reader comment:

Amazon is doing this series ... Amazon has a huge could-computing contract with the CIA ... one hand washes the other. Now Clancy himself "sold his brand" several years ago, i.e. the more recent books are being written by others under his name (how weird is that?) but note that like so many war propagandists, Clancy is strictly an armchair warrior:

“Clancy was born in 1947. So he was 20 years old in 1967. Good age to go to Vietnam. Did you ever hear about Clancy serving in Nam? No, you didn’t. That’s because he spent the war at a safe little Catholic college in Maryland, making sure he had a deferment. “Hail Mary full of grace/Keep me far from Charlie’s place!”


o Omidyar's Intercept Teams Up With War propaganda Firm Bellingcat | Mint Press News
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… while The Intercept has long publicly promoted itself as an anti-interventionist and progressive media outlet, it is becoming clearer that – largely thanks to its ties to Omidyar – it is increasingly an organization that has more in common with Bellingcat, a group that launders NATO and U.S. propaganda and disguises it as “independent” and “investigative journalism.”

…the Intercept’s main funder – eBay billionaire Pierre Omidyar – shares innumerable connections to the U.S. government and has helped fund regime-change operations abroad in the past, suggesting a likely reason behind the publication’s willingness to associate itself with Bellingcat.

…Omidyar made more visits to the Obama White House between 2009 and 2013 than Google’s Eric Schmidt, Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg or Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. He also donated $30 million to the Clinton global initiative and directly co-invested with the State Department — funding groups, some of them overtly fascist, that worked to overthrow Ukraine’s democratically elected government in 2014.

Even after Obama left office, Omidyar has continued to fund USAID, particularly its overseas program aimed at “advancing U.S. national security interests” abroad. Omidyar’s Ulupono Initiative also cosponsors one of the Pentagon’s most important contractor expos, a direct link between Omidyar initiatives and the U.S. military-industrial complex.
Hat tip NC reader zagonostra - note also especially the reply by well-connected-amongst-the-UK-elites reader Colonel Smithers' comment re. Bellingcat's founder in that discussion:

"Omidyar’s Luminate has won British government aid mandates like the Gates and Clinton Foundations. Using that as cover, it has participated covertly to advance western interests, e.g. in the recent Zimbabwean and South African elections.

“Bell end cat” started life contributing to Grauniad blogs. Eliot Higgins lives in the Midlands, not far from the jihadist masquerading as the Syrian Human Rights Observatory. Higgins has progressed from being a bed room obsessive to one of the most venal propagandists in these islands."

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Old 2019-12-31, 16:24   #132
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I have a modest proposal for the new year. The Style Manual for every news organization that has one, should be amended to contain the following provision:
Use of the word iconic in any news story or public statement from this organization is hereby prohibited. Infractions of this rule shall be punished by death.
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