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 2012-04-17, 11:42 #1 R.D. Silverman     "Bob Silverman" Nov 2003 North of Boston 23×3×311 Posts Lucas Table Does anyone have the factorization of L1058? Blair Kelly's web page says that L1061 is the first hole, yet the actual table listing the factorizations lists L1058 as having a C195 cofactor. Or is the assertion that L1061 is the first hole incorrect?
 2012-04-17, 11:46 #2 firejuggler     "Vincent" Apr 2010 Over the rainbow 284510 Posts Perhaps Blair Kelly consider L1061 the first hole because the composite factor is slightly smaller (c184) than the composite factor of L1058 (c195)? Last fiddled with by firejuggler on 2012-04-17 at 11:48
2012-04-17, 11:58   #3
R.D. Silverman

"Bob Silverman"
Nov 2003
North of Boston

23·3·311 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by firejuggler Perhaps Blair Kelly consider L1061 the first hole because the composite factor is slightly smaller (c184) than the composite factor of L1058 (c195)?
No. Blair would not make that mistake.

2012-04-17, 11:58   #4
rajula

"Tapio Rajala"
Feb 2010
Finland

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by firejuggler Perhaps Blair Kelly consider L1061 the first hole because the composite factor is slightly smaller (c184) than the composite factor of L1058 (c195)?
That would be really strange concept of "first hole". Also, there are other composite factors of Lucas numbers that are smaller than the c184 of L1061.

Last fiddled with by rajula on 2012-04-17 at 12:00

 2012-04-17, 12:08 #5 firejuggler     "Vincent" Apr 2010 Over the rainbow B1D16 Posts Then, maybe a mistake. Everybody make mistake sometimes. Or he/(she?) has just finished the factorisation and hasn't uploaded the result. Last fiddled with by firejuggler on 2012-04-17 at 12:13
2012-04-17, 12:17   #6
R.D. Silverman

"Bob Silverman"
Nov 2003
North of Boston

23×3×311 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by firejuggler Then, maybe a mistake. Everybody make mistake sometimes. Or he/(she?) has just finished the factorisation and hasn't uploaded the result.
It is far more likely that the full factorization of L1058 was simply
not entered into the table.

Does anyone have it?

2012-04-17, 15:26   #7
LaurV
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Jun 2011
Thailand

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman Does anyone have the factorization of L1058? Blair Kelly's web page says that L1061 is the first hole, yet the actual table listing the factorizations lists L1058 as having a C195 cofactor. Or is the assertion that L1061 is the first hole incorrect?
Oh, Mr Silverman, how about doing your homework before posting such ignorant questions here.... You were just a click away from the truth from Mr Kelly's web page....

(edit: gotcha! I will laugh 5 weeks in a row !!! ha ha ha ha ha ha...")

Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2012-04-17 at 15:32

2012-04-17, 15:36   #8
axn

Jun 2003

5,387 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by LaurV Oh, Mr Silverman, how about doing your homework before posting such ignorant questions here.... You were just a click away from the truth from Mr Kelly's web page....
RDS was talking about the discrepancy between the web page (http://mersennus.net/fibonacci/index.html) and the data tables (what you posted).

2012-04-17, 15:51   #9
LaurV
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by axn RDS was talking about the discrepancy between the web page (http://mersennus.net/fibonacci/index.html) and the data tables (what you posted).
Sorry, can't reply to that, I am still shaking from laugh and barely can find the keys

2012-04-17, 16:54   #10
R.D. Silverman

"Bob Silverman"
Nov 2003
North of Boston

746410 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by LaurV Oh, Mr Silverman, how about doing your homework before posting such ignorant questions here.... You were just a click away from the truth from Mr Kelly's web page.... (edit: gotcha! I will laugh 5 weeks in a row !!! ha ha ha ha ha ha...")
The entry for L1058 is new. It was NOT there when I checked the very
list of composites that you pointed to.

2012-04-17, 16:59   #11
R.D. Silverman

"Bob Silverman"
Nov 2003
North of Boston

164508 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman The entry for L1058 is new. It was NOT there when I checked the very list of composites that you pointed to.
In particular, see:

http://mersennus.net/fibonacci/status2000.html

L1058 is still not listed.

and:

http://mersennus.net/fibonacci/

says quite explicitly that L1061 is the first hole.

It seems that there is inconsistency among the tables. Sean seems
misinformed as well. He is doing the Lucas numbers in order but skipped
over L1058.

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