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Old 2010-06-24, 17:18   #12
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Prime95 never sends intermediate work to the server. In your scenario, the server would accept both your results and the new user's results. If they match, then the number would be successfully double-checked.
From your words, I'm picking up an important distinction. It appears the number my machine is working on at the one year deadline would be assigned to another user, while at the same being allowed to continue to it's completion on my machine. That wasn't initially clear to me, since I thought the reassignment essentially meant, "you're taking too long, forget it." Provided my new interpretation is correct, I'll just let the current configuration proceed.

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That said, if you are starting your LL test in 5 days why do you think it won't complete within a year?
The time estimates given on the assignment sheet says 494 days for the LL. I also got the "WARNING:" message on the communication thread for the LL assignment:

Acer_N270 0 71453843 TFTF68, 23.10%2010-06-19 08:1352010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-24 17:44 0
Acer_N270 0 53041613 TF 0.00%2010-06-19 23:5352010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-26 11:10 2
Acer_N270 0 73881397 TF 0.00%2010-06-21 17:5332010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-26 18:36 2
Acer_N270 0 56944597 TF 0.00%2010-06-21 23:5332010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-27 13:54 3
Acer_N270 0 71364523 TF 0.00%2010-06-22 17:4622010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-27 21:36 3
Acer_N270 0 55325561 TF 0.00%2010-06-22 23:5322010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-28 17:28 4
Acer_N270 0 74049929 TF 0.00%2010-06-23 22:4312010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-28 21:10 4
Acer_N270 0 74080967 TF 0.00%2010-06-23 22:4312010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542010-06-29 00:53 5
Acer_N270 0 45365917 LL 0.00%2010-06-24 02:2602010-06-24 05:542010-06-25 05:542011-10-31 15:55 494

Thanks for the input.
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Old 2010-06-24, 20:52   #13
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The time estimates given on the assignment sheet says 494 days for the LL. I also got the "WARNING:" message on the communication thread for the LL assignment:
What type of CPU are you running that on?

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Old 2010-06-24, 22:35   #14
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Looks like an Intel Atom N270.
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Old 2010-06-24, 22:40   #15
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Looks like an Intel Atom N270.


Not exactly the best fit for first time L-L's. The heat in a netbook might be a bit much.
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Old 2010-06-24, 22:45   #16
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I just retired the Pentium II 266 that had been running this project nonstop for years for the big time in this:

Software Version Windows,Prime95,v25.11,build 2 Model Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz Features Single core, hyperthreaded, Prefetch,SSE,SSE2 Speed 1.595 GHz (0.310 GHz P4 effective equivalent) L1/L2 Cache -1 / 512 KB
When the Pentium II was doing LL work many years ago before it changed itself to TF, each one would take forever.
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Not exactly the best fit for first time L-L's. The heat in a netbook might be a bit much.
It runs warm around the blower ports, sure. The heat conducts up and around the left edge of the machine and makes it to the letter "S." I think the CPU is running full blast (51% on XP task manager) with these TFs. Will LLs push it hotter that TFs? It is indeed an Acer netbook with the N270 CPU. Even with this thing running red hot, it has to use less power than the old Dell desktop with the Pentium II. It didn't exactly blow cold air out it multiple blower vents.
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Old 2010-06-25, 01:00   #18
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Don't trust prime95's estimate for an Atom. Instead, run Advanced/Time on exponent 45000000 for say 100 iterations. This will give you a much more accurate estimate.
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Old 2010-06-25, 03:13   #19
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Here are the results of a timing test with 45,000,000 & 100 iterations:

Setting affinity to run worker on logical CPU #0
Using FFT length 2560K
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Iterations: 100. Total time: 78.330
Estimated time to complete this exponent: 407 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes.
Setting affinity to run helper thread 1 on logical CPU #1
Using FFT length 2560K, 2 threads.
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Iterations:100. Total time: 55.855 sec.
Estimated time to complete this exponent: 290 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes.

According to windows task manager, the CPU ran at 50% on the first round and 100% on the second round. Hopefully the software will pick the second method. I still don't have a definitive answer to my original question. Will the server instruct my machine to dump it's work after the one year deadline if/when the exponent is reassigned or will it be allowed to proceed to completion?
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According to windows task manager, the CPU ran at 50% on the first round and 100% on the second round. Hopefully the software will pick the second method.
You can set that in the software. Go to Test -> Worker Windows
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I still don't have a definitive answer to my original question. Will the server instruct my machine to dump it's work after the one year deadline if/when the exponent is reassigned or will it be allowed to proceed to completion?
The server will not tell your machine to dump the number.
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Cool beans on the reassignment issue. I'll see what happens when it hits the LL assignment and make sure it uses one worker with two threads. I checked the current software settings just now and they are set to run one worker window, priority 1. Worker window one specifics are: First time tests, CPU affinity set to any, and use 2 CPUS. I think these settings are correct to get it use use as much CPU as possible.
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I switched from TF to LL and got M45365917 along with the one year warning message that the assignment may be reassigned to another user/machine after one year. It will take 5 days to reach the LL assignment. Question. If after the server decides to reassign the exponent one year from now, is the work performed by my machine discarded or is the state saved and transferred to the other user/machine? I'd like to do LL, but I'll unreserve the LL and go back to TF if the work is lost after the one year deadline.
The point is your machine is so slow it is better suited to TF work. The message you got is trying to tell you you should probably have stayed with TF work.
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