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Old 2020-04-05, 18:55   #518
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How does/did Yemen manage to avoid this thing?
Perhaps the same way as West Virginia achieved status as the only state of 50 US states to have no confirmed cases for a while. Someone whose husband was seriously ill with COVID19 got the 800-number-and website runaround for days and repeated refusals to test. It appeared that the powers that be had no clue how to proceed or perhaps will to do so. When a sample collection was finally performed, it did not get processed in time to be meaningful. That had to be repeated. She got it too, while dealing with the bureaucratic obstacles. They were the first known West Virginia cases.

There's a theory that the lesser incidence in some parts of the world is due to the prevalence of taking hydroxychloroquine as a malaria preventive. https://reliefweb.int/report/yemen/w...response-yemen

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Old 2020-04-05, 19:15   #519
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Re. the N95 exhalation-valve issue - can one wear one of the thin 3-ply surgical masks being recommend for hoi polloi either under or over the N95 one?

Related: As with its delay in declaring a pandemic, WHO once again behind the curve re. wearing masks:

WHO makes U-turn while US, Singapore abandon pandemic advice and tell citizens to start wearing masks | South China Morning Post

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How Generals Fueled 1918 Flu Pandemic to Win Their World War | The American Conservative
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The U.S. military has been forced by the coronavirus pandemic to make some serious changes in their operations. But the Pentagon, and especially the Navy, have also displayed a revealing resistance to moves to stand down that were clearly needed to protect troops from the raging virus from the start.

The Army and Marine Corps have shifted from in-person to virtual recruitment meetings. But the Pentagon has reversed an initial Army decision to postpone further training and exercises for at least 30 days, and it has decided to continue sending new recruits from all the services to basic training camps, where they would no doubt be unable to sustain social distancing.

On Thursday, the captain of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, on which the virus was reportedly spreading, was relieved of command. He was blamed by his superiors for the leak of a letter he wrote warning the Navy that failure to act rapidly threatened the health of his 5,000 sailors.

Secretary of Defense Mark Esper justified his decision to continue many military activities as usual by declaring these activities are “critical to national security.” But does anyone truly believe there is a military threat on the horizon that the Pentagon must prepare for right now? It is widely understood outside the Pentagon that the only real threat to that security is the coronavirus itself.

Esper’s decisions reflect a deeply ingrained Pentagon habit of protecting its parochial military interests at the expense of the health of American troops. This pattern of behavior recalls the far worse case of the U.S. service chiefs once managing the war in Europe. They acted with even greater callousness toward the troops being called off to war in Europe during the devastating “Spanish flu” pandemic of 1918, which killed 50 million people worldwide.

It was called the “Spanish flu” only because, while the United States, Britain and France were all censoring news about the spread of the pandemic in their countries to maintain domestic morale, the press in neutralist Spain was reporting freely on influenza cases there. In fact, the first major wave of infections in the United States came in U.S. training camps set up to serve the war.

Abundant documentary evidence shows that the 1918 pandemic actually began in Haskell County, Kansas, in early 1918...

...The disastrous character of the U.S. elite running the First World War is clearly revealed with the astonishing fact that more American soldiers were killed and hospitalized by influenza (63,114) than in combat (53,402). And an estimated 340,000 American troops were hospitalized with influenza/pneumonia, compared with 227,000 hospitalized by German attacks.

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Old 2020-04-05, 20:22   #520
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Loss of Smell Is a Coronavirus Symptom - COVID-19 Anosmia | Esquire
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researchers at Kings College London have developed an app, called the COVID-19 Symptom Tracker, for British citizens to document their Coronavirus Experience. It now has around 2 million users, Hopkins says, as Britons are encouraged to map their symptoms on a daily basis, even if they're feeling well. The goal is to learn more about the onset of the infection and "identify which symptoms occur at which stage of the disease." When Hopkins first put out the organization's statement, loss of smell was not included among the app's options. But she got in contact with the development team and convinced them to add it.

The app team released a statement this week announcing that sense of smell is "actually the strongest symptom to predict infection," according to Hopkins, including when compared to fever. They found 60 percent of patients who tested positive had lost their sense of smell, while in those that tested negative, only 18 percent had anosmia symptoms. This offers more specificity than a fever, which was commonly found in those who tested negatively. The takeaway, Hopkins says, was that "anyone with new onset loss of sense of smell should be self-isolating, and ideally tested." It's an early warning sign. Hopkins has developed a cohort of around 2,500 patients she's monitoring, and while the exact timeline of when anosmia occurs still isn't clear, she says around one-in-four lost their sense of smell before developing any other symptoms. Another one-in-four develop it around the same time as other symptoms, and for the other half, it comes after.
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Lost Smell and Taste Hint COVID-19 Can Target the Nervous System | The Scientist
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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson hospitalized with virus
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LONDON (AP) — British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was admitted to a hospital Sunday for tests, his office said, because he is still suffering symptoms, 10 days after he was diagnosed with COVID-19.

Johnson's office said the admission to an undisclosed London hospital came on the advice of his doctor and was not an emergency. The prime minister's Downing St. office said it was a "precautionary step" and Johnson remains in charge of the government.
In what is surely a sign of my advanced age, this reminds me that it was a standing joke during the final years of the Soviet Union that an announcement that the Premier merely "had a cold" meant he was circling the drain.
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Old 2020-04-06, 04:21   #522
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Tonight's numbers:
globally: 1274923 cases, 69479 deaths, 260484 recovered
CFR1 = 69479 / (69479 + 260484) = 0.211 = 21.1%
CFR2 = 69479 / 1274923 = 0.0545 = 5.45%
USA: 337620 cases, 8440 deaths, 17530 recovered
CFR1 = 8440 /(8440+17530) = 0.325 = 32.5%
CFR2 = 8440 / 337620 = 0.025 = 2.5%
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
global: 1273712 cases, 69458 deaths, 262486 recovered, 941768 active cases of which 5% are serious or critical
USA: 336830 cases, 9618 deaths, 17977 recovered, 309235 active of which 8702 are serious or critical; 29 deaths/million population

NY City has had more deaths than Germany plus Belgium
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MOD Note: All of the discussion about re-engineering masks has been moved here: https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=25431
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Old 2020-04-06, 15:34   #524
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Default Scotland's top medical official resigns

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5460581/coronavirus-scotland-catherine-calderwood-chief-medic-covid-19/
"Scotland's top medical official resigns after being caught breaking her own coronavirus lockdown advice" https://www.foxnews.com/world/scotla...virus-lockdown

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Old 2020-04-06, 15:49   #525
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NY City has had more deaths than Germany plus Belgium
NYC: pop ~8.4 million
Germany: 83. million
Belgium: 11.5 million

“I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus,” the NYC mayor tweeted March 2.

https://news.yahoo.com/the-mistakes-...090040375.html
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Old 2020-04-06, 18:32   #526
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From things that I have heard, many in Oregon have been wanting to do that for years.
Texas beat them to it.

In Texas, state troopers have begun stopping and screening drivers coming in from neighbouring Louisiana, requiring them to provide their personal details and observe a mandatory two-week quarantine.

Apologies for the likely short-lived link. Exercise for the reader: find and post a better on.
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Old 2020-04-06, 20:11   #527
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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson hospitalized with virus
In what is surely a sign of my advanced age, this reminds me that it was a standing joke during the final years of the Soviet Union that an announcement that the Premier merely "had a cold" meant he was circling the drain.
BoJo now in intensive care unit.

When you come to Tommy's the holiday's forever!

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Old 2020-04-06, 20:43   #528
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Default Detainees sue Sheriff Tom Dart over coronavirus at Cook County Jail

Cook County Jail is in Chicago, IL, USA. It is the largest single-site jail in the US.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronav...ok-county-jail
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As of Monday morning, the jail population was at 4,567 — a drop of more than 1,000 from a month ago. Jail officials Sunday reported that 234 detainees had tested positive for coronavirus, a number that has grown daily since the first two confirmed cases were announced two weeks ago. Nearly 80 jail staff members have tested positive for COVID-19.
5% of the inmate population plus more for staff. This is a horror story in progress, along with jails and prisons everywhere.

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