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Old 2020-01-30, 20:32   #199
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Countdown 1d 2h 28m.
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Old 2020-01-31, 11:27   #200
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Less than 12H now.
Goodbye, friends.

We Fough you for 1000 years ,and got 50 years of peace. I hope we don't get another millenia of war.
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Old 2020-01-31, 20:29   #201
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Brexit D-Day | naked capitalism
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Old 2020-01-31, 21:27   #202
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Although it seems likely that the UK will take an economic hit in the near to medium term, there are also those who believe that life consists of more than monetary considerations. Readers resident in the second-largest country in North America may wish to reflect upon their economic situation which pertained almost 250 years ago.

The oft-repeated phrase "ever closer union" is anathema to many in the UK and, I dare guess, elsewhere in the Europe. A Catalonian whom I know well was a Brexit supporter (and still is AFAIK), despite having no direct economic interest. He describes the UK and Spain as colonies of the EU and Catalu├▒a as a colony of the Spanish state.

Lets face it: the fundamental reason for the creation of what eventually became the EU was to prevent France and Germany kicking the out of each other and then relying on Anglophone countries beating some sort of sense into them.

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Old 2020-01-31, 21:37   #203
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Some interesting responses in the European press. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51323491

"When London leaves the community, all the countries there will feel orphans, especially those that have never believed in European integration," says Italy's Il Sole 24 Ore.

Some are counting the cost in detail: "The EU will lose a significant part of its population, discover a 60-billion-euro hole in the budget and have only one permanent member of the UN Security Council with nuclear weapons," notes a commentator in the French daily Les Echos.

There are calls for greater self-reflection within the EU. "When will Brussels start the inquiry into its own share in this divorce?" asks a commentator for the Dutch financial channel RTLZ. "It would be better if Brussels finally looked at itself in the mirror and started wondering about what aversion the British - and too many other Europeans - are experiencing."

Austria's Der Standard appears to agree: "Should the British ever rejoin a European community, it would be an organisation significantly different from the EU in its current form. Should this be considered a bad thing?"
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Old 2020-01-31, 21:47   #204
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Lets face it: the fundamental reason for the creation of what eventually became the EU was to prevent France and Germany kicking the out of each other
I think it's fairer to say that it started out as the Benelux!

Our thoughts tonight are with many British friends who did not want to leave the EU.
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Old 2020-01-31, 21:55   #205
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I think it's fairer to say that it started out as the Benelux!
When elephants fight it is the grass that gets trampled.

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Old 2020-01-31, 22:05   #206
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I understand both sides and wish all the best to UK, country who received us so well. Now...time to pack...nah...just kidding. Love Cambridge.
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Old 2020-01-31, 23:03   #207
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People are letting off fireworks where I live.
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Old 2020-02-01, 07:33   #208
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Good morning all. Birds are singing differently....
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Old 2020-02-01, 13:59   #209
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Good morning all. Birds are singing differently....
Perhaps the fireworks affected them.

Fireworks have been known to have worse effects on birds, as described here.
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