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Old 2019-03-06, 21:10   #1
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Default Strategic double and triple checks (PRP's and P-1's too)

New sticky to house the lists. Post requests for DC and TC's and claim of exponents. The mods will keep the lists maintained in the top posts. Post with requests for rechecks and exponents claimed will be removed when the lists are updated.
Always register your claims right away. Those that are claimed but not registered will remain on the lists. If they are listed as being assigned to Anonymous (or others not known to be finishers) and show no progress, they will be moved to the watch list section.

The lists are kept fairly up to date.

The easy way to get some assignments (with Prime95):
  • Grab the lines of the exponents that you will do.
  • Stop Prime95.
  • Edit your worktodo.txt, inserting the new lines, save it, and close the editor.
  • Restart Prime95
  • Go to the menu Advanced-> Manual Communication
  • Make sure "Contact PrimeNet server now" and "Send new expected completion dates to server" are checked. Hit OK
  • After Prime95 is done communicating, look and see if any of the new exponents don't have an Assignment ID (because they were already assigned.) If they don't, stop Prime95, reopen the worktodo.txt, remove those lines, save, then restart Prime95

Instructions for mprime:
  • Grab the lines of the exponents that you will do.
  • Stop mprime.
  • Edit your worktodo.txt, inserting the new lines, save it, and close the editor.
  • Delete the line starting with `LastEndDatesSent=` in `local.txt`.
  • Run `mprime -c` for force communication, and watch for errors: exponents that didn't get assignments should be removed from `worktodo.txt`.
  • Restart mprime.

For gpu runs, see https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...4&postcount=21 and follow links it contains as needed.

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Default Strategic LL Double Checks

This is the location for the DC list:

Any exponent that has had a single First Time LL should no longer have an LL DC. It should get a PRP on a machine running Prime95 v30 or the newer version of owlGPU that produces VDF (aka Certs). The extra effort for the cert vs the need for TC tips the balance in favour of the PRP (with the better error checking code.

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The "Watch list". Exponents assigned to Anon or others outside this thread that have yet to show progress. Do not poach these!
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This is for the list of needed triple (and higher order) checks.

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Exponents with 2 Unverified results:
Cat 0

Cat 1

Cat 2

Cat 3
Doublecheck=56841793,74,1
Doublecheck=56873501,74,1
Doublecheck=56924737,74,1
Doublecheck=56929337,74,1
Doublecheck=57005393,74,1
Doublecheck=57033289,74,1
Doublecheck=57039707,74,1
Doublecheck=57155113,74,1
Doublecheck=57189199,74,1
Doublecheck=57194437,74,1
Doublecheck=57243961,74,1
Doublecheck=57258979,74,1
Doublecheck=57279797,74,1
Doublecheck=57282889,74,1
Doublecheck=57283099,74,1
Doublecheck=57309079,74,1
Doublecheck=57314731,74,1
Doublecheck=57318431,74,1
Doublecheck=57339761,74,1
Doublecheck=57340747,74,1
Doublecheck=57341681,74,1
Doublecheck=57341827,74,1
Doublecheck=57359399,74,1
Doublecheck=57424907,74,1
Doublecheck=57433399,74,1
Doublecheck=57449809,74,1
Doublecheck=57453527,74,1
Doublecheck=57503227,74,1
Doublecheck=57503287,74,1
Doublecheck=57503447,74,1
Doublecheck=57507907,74,1
Doublecheck=57520261,74,1
Doublecheck=57526951,74,1
Doublecheck=57532009,74,1
Doublecheck=57535693,74,1
Doublecheck=57536701,74,1
Doublecheck=57536827,74,1
Doublecheck=57542171,74,1
Doublecheck=57566389,74,1
Doublecheck=57576121,74,1
Doublecheck=57579661,74,1
Doublecheck=57584407,74,1
Doublecheck=57585673,74,1
Doublecheck=57587753,74,1
Doublecheck=57595423,74,1
Doublecheck=57595687,74,1
Doublecheck=57596417,74,1
Doublecheck=57611539,74,1
Doublecheck=57612767,74,1
Doublecheck=57613261,74,1
Doublecheck=57613837,74,1
Doublecheck=57620627,74,1
Doublecheck=57646843,74,1
Doublecheck=57650393,74,1
Doublecheck=57656461,74,1
Doublecheck=57665911,74,1
Doublecheck=57667121,74,1
Doublecheck=57668581,74,1
Doublecheck=57693469,74,1
Doublecheck=57710143,74,1
Doublecheck=57731183,74,1
Doublecheck=57749603,74,1
Doublecheck=57780241,74,1
Doublecheck=57782071,74,1
Doublecheck=57782957,74,1
Doublecheck=57807571,74,1
Doublecheck=57807847,74,1
Doublecheck=57832871,74,1
Doublecheck=57900533,74,1
Doublecheck=57900643,74,1
Doublecheck=57910199,74,1
Doublecheck=57915239,74,1
Doublecheck=57915467,74,1
Doublecheck=57922883,74,1
Doublecheck=57942013,74,1
Doublecheck=57962207,74,1
Doublecheck=57975391,74,1
Doublecheck=57976979,74,1
Doublecheck=57993101,74,1
Doublecheck=58007237,74,1
Doublecheck=58031891,74,1
Doublecheck=58032463,74,1
Doublecheck=58036001,74,1
Doublecheck=58041559,74,1
Doublecheck=58054603,74,1
Doublecheck=58055177,74,1
Doublecheck=58065467,74,1
Doublecheck=58077847,74,1
Doublecheck=58097021,74,1
Doublecheck=58103239,74,1
Doublecheck=58133071,74,1
Doublecheck=58169311,74,1
Doublecheck=58195703,74,1

Higher level
DoubleCheck=83428717,76,1
DoubleCheck=83544997,76,1
DoubleCheck=83580799,76,1
DoubleCheck=83722621,76,1
DoubleCheck=83775451,76,1
DoubleCheck=83850967,76,1
DoubleCheck=83864059,76,1
DoubleCheck=83911159,76,1

DoubleCheck=84081341,76,1
DoubleCheck=84082027,76,1
DoubleCheck=84149003,76,1
DoubleCheck=84210359,76,1
DoubleCheck=84231919,76,1
DoubleCheck=84312323,76,1
DoubleCheck=84394243,76,1
DoubleCheck=84436007,76,1
DoubleCheck=84485491,76,1
DoubleCheck=84523973,76,1
DoubleCheck=84546577,76,1
DoubleCheck=84557723,76,1
DoubleCheck=84575089,76,1
DoubleCheck=84679559,76,1

DoubleCheck=85613299,76,1
DoubleCheck=85616521,76,1
DoubleCheck=85694897,76,1
DoubleCheck=85872121,76,1

DoubleCheck=86068153,76,1
DoubleCheck=86087861,76,1
DoubleCheck=86241059,76,1
DoubleCheck=86311717,76,1
DoubleCheck=86670553,76,1
DoubleCheck=86735827,76,1
DoubleCheck=86802427,76,1

Exponents with 1 Suspect result + 1 Unverified result:
DoubleCheck=85197851,76,1
DoubleCheck=85210621,76,1
DoubleCheck=85216567,76,1
DoubleCheck=85247069,76,1
DoubleCheck=85355161,76,1
DoubleCheck=85357369,76,1
DoubleCheck=85375319,76,1
DoubleCheck=85394167,76,1
DoubleCheck=85403849,76,1
DoubleCheck=85411343,76,1
DoubleCheck=85422373,76,1
DoubleCheck=85426457,76,1
DoubleCheck=85482907,76,1
DoubleCheck=85515527,76,1
DoubleCheck=85542493,76,1
DoubleCheck=85622617,76,1
DoubleCheck=85625093,76,1
DoubleCheck=85643693,76,1
DoubleCheck=85666963,76,1
DoubleCheck=85667149,76,1
DoubleCheck=85672709,76,1
DoubleCheck=85678693,76,1
DoubleCheck=85695971,76,1
DoubleCheck=85711651,76,1
DoubleCheck=85711687,76,1
DoubleCheck=85711699,76,1
DoubleCheck=85711799,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712009,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712149,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712273,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712411,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712527,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712569,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712579,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712593,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712659,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712687,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712801,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712863,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712911,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712987,76,1
DoubleCheck=85712999,76,1
DoubleCheck=85713049,76,1
DoubleCheck=85713107,76,1
DoubleCheck=85713143,76,1
DoubleCheck=85713163,76,1
DoubleCheck=85758067,76,1
DoubleCheck=85811623,76,1
DoubleCheck=85815823,76,1
DoubleCheck=85839779,76,1
DoubleCheck=85890377,76,1
DoubleCheck=85907999,76,1
DoubleCheck=85956457,76,1
DoubleCheck=85957103,76,1
DoubleCheck=85976797,76,1
DoubleCheck=85991819,76,1

DoubleCheck=86022631,76,1
DoubleCheck=86049349,76,1
DoubleCheck=86059877,76,1
DoubleCheck=86060327,76,1
DoubleCheck=86060333,76,1
DoubleCheck=86066009,76,1
DoubleCheck=86080409,76,1
DoubleCheck=86091241,76,1
DoubleCheck=86111651,76,1
DoubleCheck=86125649,76,1
DoubleCheck=86133961,76,1
DoubleCheck=86143697,76,1
DoubleCheck=86151119,76,1
DoubleCheck=86177687,76,1
DoubleCheck=86190043,76,1
DoubleCheck=86191177,76,1
DoubleCheck=86217587,76,1
DoubleCheck=86245343,76,1
DoubleCheck=86291087,76,1
DoubleCheck=86306777,76,1
DoubleCheck=86307061,76,1
DoubleCheck=86311957,76,1
DoubleCheck=86350543,76,1
DoubleCheck=86432911,76,1
DoubleCheck=86441813,76,1
DoubleCheck=86454517,76,1
DoubleCheck=86495869,76,1
DoubleCheck=86527979,76,1
DoubleCheck=86534593,76,1
DoubleCheck=86574121,76,1
DoubleCheck=86589011,76,1
DoubleCheck=86589031,76,1
DoubleCheck=86599867,76,1
DoubleCheck=86612107,76,1
DoubleCheck=86629819,76,1
DoubleCheck=86637553,76,1
DoubleCheck=86647151,76,1
DoubleCheck=86673527,76,1
DoubleCheck=86677741,76,1
DoubleCheck=86678773,76,1
DoubleCheck=86683199,76,1
DoubleCheck=86688689,76,1
DoubleCheck=86702537,76,1
DoubleCheck=86711437,76,1
DoubleCheck=86742781,76,1
DoubleCheck=86746753,76,1
DoubleCheck=86746927,76,1
DoubleCheck=86759261,76,1
DoubleCheck=86796767,76,1
DoubleCheck=86964929,76,1

DoubleCheck=87293033,76,1
DoubleCheck=87377753,76,1
DoubleCheck=87507047,76,1
DoubleCheck=87515629,76,1
DoubleCheck=87608419,76,1
DoubleCheck=87614563,76,1
DoubleCheck=87750577,76,1
DoubleCheck=87775393,76,1
DoubleCheck=87777673,76,1
DoubleCheck=87805369,76,1
DoubleCheck=87824987,76,1
DoubleCheck=87859769,76,1
DoubleCheck=87876157,76,1
DoubleCheck=87934877,76,1
DoubleCheck=87977089,76,1

DoubleCheck=88056193,76,1
DoubleCheck=88083253,76,1
DoubleCheck=88102649,76,1
DoubleCheck=88111033,76,1
DoubleCheck=88112279,76,1
DoubleCheck=88124441,76,1
DoubleCheck=88130173,76,1
DoubleCheck=88136171,76,1
DoubleCheck=88139089,76,1
DoubleCheck=88142581,76,1
DoubleCheck=88158397,76,1
DoubleCheck=88188547,76,1
DoubleCheck=88217431,76,1
DoubleCheck=88260199,76,1
DoubleCheck=88261157,76,1
DoubleCheck=88264003,76,1
DoubleCheck=88303009,76,1
DoubleCheck=88303603,76,1
DoubleCheck=88304357,76,1
DoubleCheck=88344499,76,1
DoubleCheck=88348753,76,1
DoubleCheck=88357469,76,1
DoubleCheck=88362823,76,1
DoubleCheck=88411121,76,1
DoubleCheck=88419031,76,1
DoubleCheck=88426687,76,1
DoubleCheck=88429067,76,1
DoubleCheck=88429841,76,1
DoubleCheck=88435969,76,1
DoubleCheck=88436903,76,1
DoubleCheck=88444859,76,1
DoubleCheck=88445809,76,1
DoubleCheck=88457249,76,1
DoubleCheck=88470937,76,1
DoubleCheck=88475831,76,1
DoubleCheck=88476737,76,1
DoubleCheck=88494971,76,1
DoubleCheck=88503689,76,1
DoubleCheck=88504093,76,1
DoubleCheck=88514381,76,1
DoubleCheck=88535329,76,1
DoubleCheck=88540577,76,1
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Quad and higher
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DoubleCheck=56779103,76,1   % Done 8.2	Updated	2020-08-23
DoubleCheck=56872891,76,1   % Done 0.1	Updated	2020-08-28
DoubleCheck=56971261,76,1   % Done 0.0	Updated	2020-08-15
DoubleCheck=57359399,75,1   % Done 0.3	Updated	2020-09-08

DoubleCheck=81449359,76,1   % Done 96.4	Updated	2020-07-25
DoubleCheck=84995717,76,1   % Done 96.1	Updated	2020-09-24
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Old 2019-03-27, 20:13   #4
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PRP checks. Note: please use V30 for these.

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Default Potentially bad P-1 results that need to be redone

Potentially bad P-1 results that need to be redone.

Place holder post. There are ~50 P-1 tests that might be bad. If Madpoo provides the list it will go here:

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[ewmayer] @Uncwilly: Are these results suspect due to a bug in one particular client? If so, would you or Aaron please provide [do|don't]-run-under guidance together with the assignments?
[uncwilly] @ewmayer: Can't find Aaron's post at the moment. The forum search does not accept P-1 as a keyword. Look at the original date on this post and check for Aaron's post 0->30 days before.

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Claimed this one.
Is there a post that describes what all the fields are in a worktodo entry for PRP? I always guess and hope I did it right.
PRP=EDDC25414116177C4F046D79BE11A463,1,2,96365519,-1,76,0,3,1

Added the 2 extra arguments that can be in the assignment: ",3,1"

1,2,96365519,-1: Number to test: 1 * 296365519 - 1
76: Trial factored to 276
0: Not sure about this one. (Maybe if P-1 has been done or not? or how many PRP tests has already been done on the exponent?) [EWM comment: Per the assignment-format examples on my Mlucas readme page, a 1 following the TF bit depth means this expo has had some p-1 testing done but could use a deeper round of p-1; thus a 0 presumably means no deeper p-1 is warranted.]
3: PRP base 3. This is always 3 as standard for normal GIMPS candidates.
1: PRP type 1. This can vary between 1-5, but mostly 1 or 4 for older gpuowl tests. Prime95 and newer gpuowl versions and Mlucas? default to type 1 (and Prime95 uses type 5 for PRP-CF tests on exponents with known factor(s)).

Both PRP base and PRP type has to be the same for the PRPDC test as the original PRP test.


PRP type from undoc.txt, the "(default is 5)" is only for PRP-CF tests, the type number is 1 on normal PRP tests.

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PRP supports 5 types of residues for compatibility with other PRP programs.  If
a is the PRP base and N is the number being tested, then the residue types are:
1 = 64-bit residue of a^(N-1), a traditional Fermat PRP test used by most other programs
2 = 64-bit residue of a^((N-1)/2)
3 = 64-bit residue of a^(N+1), only available if b=2
4 = 64-bit residue of a^((N+1)/2), only available if b=2
5 = 64-bit residue of a^(N*known_factors-1), same as type 1 if there are no known factors
To control which residue type is generated, use this setting in prime.txt:
	PRPResidueType=n		(default is 5)
The residue type can also be set for PRP tests in worktodo.txt entries making
this option somewhat obsolete.
[edit]
And also for base >3, some versions of gpuowl, PRP res type 0.
Gpuowl supported PRP res type was 1 for some versions, 4 for others, 1 currently.

Worktodo formats for all common applications are described in https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...8&postcount=22

Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2020-07-12 at 23:37 Reason: Added clarification re. the "more p-1 needed?" field in PRP-DC assignments
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DC's on suspect single LL's should no longer be done.

Any single suspect LL should be redone with v30 as PRP-VDF. The balance between the DC and higher than usual TC rate vs running a fresh a PRP & cert lean toward the PRP path to require fewer cycles long term. The error checking is better on PRP.

TC-LLs still make sense to clean up as LL (the required quad rate is low enough).
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Quote:
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Requesting triple-check:

DoubleCheck=55709483,76,1
Picked up by rando user.

Latest progress: 58.5 % 2020-09-19

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I reserved 83385761 and 83413117.


Looks like somebody reserved 81449359 back in june.
Yes, they took it to that 96% and then stopped. No more progress. I waited and waited, then put it back on the list.
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New TC: 53571863
I have it registered and it is in the front of the line.
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Why are we managing these checks manually? Why are any humans involved in manually doling out and coordinating assignments?
When we see a machine that may be diverging from reality or someone has has a set-up that they are tuning to get the max, it maybe a good idea for a fast turn around. Yes, the server will eventually assign them. But, dealing with these troubled results before they become the last in queue is helpful. Occasionally they need a QC. People like doing different types of work.

slaur/nomead likes to find exponents with errors and do the TC on them.
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One thing makes little sense to me. Why does the fastest processor get the smallest exponents and not the other way around?
It is not always the fastest, rather those that can produce at a suitable and reliable rate. Also to get the Cat 0 assignments, one needs to agree to take them. This is only the clean-up work. In an ideal world, there should be no Cat 0 or even Cat 1 being assigned. Cat 2 and 3's should be completing and none expiring. Only when what were assigned as a higher Cat expires are Cat 1 and 0 assignments available. So, to pick up the pieces and sweep this tail end up a few machines are volunteered to do this. It is the users choice.
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To my another statement. I realize that the creators of the project are entitled to create a slightly better chance of finding a prime number for themselves after 25 years of computing. Even though individual people now have twice the computing power as the rest of the users. I think that overall a slightly higher throughput could be achieved if the assignment rules were different.
George does not self serve any special exponents to himself. If you look at the top producers list, Ryan is doing ECM, Ben is spending money on cloud servers to run this, the next 3 are mainly TF which does not give a chance of finding a prime, Curtis has found primes. No one person is more likely to be assigned the next prime (except by total number of assignments).

There are threads about assignment rules elsewhere. You can make suggestions there.
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