20110212, 15:11  #1 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
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Proth's Theorem
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ProthsTheorem.html
http://primes.utm.edu/glossary/xpage/ProthPrime.html I'm wondering about the requirement 2^{n}>k. I know that without this requirement all odd numbers/primes would be Proth numbers/primes, but does the theorem work for k>2^{n} ? or only sometimes? I tested some fermat factors from: http://www.prothsearch.net/fermat.html and the theorem works on them: N=52347*2^{7}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=5,7,17 N=1071*2^{8}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=5,11,13 N=262814145745*2^{8}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=3,7,13 N=11141971095088142685*2^{9}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=7,11 N=604944512477*2^{11}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=3,5,7,11 N=11131*2^{12}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=3,5,11,17 N=395937*2^{14}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=7,13,17 N=10253207784531279*2^{14}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=5,7,13 N=434673084282938711*2^{13}+1: a^{(N1)/2}=1 (mod N) for a=3,5,13,17 Last fiddled with by ATH on 20110212 at 15:16 
20110214, 00:09  #2 
Feb 2006
Denmark
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If a^(N1)/2=1 (mod N), then a^(N1)=1 (mod N), so N is a basea Fermat prp by Fermat's little theorem.
Proth's theorem gives a condition where this also proves primality. You are only testing known primes which will of course all be Fermat prp's. Proth's condition is not satisfied so you haven't shown whether they are primes or Fermat pseudoprimes. 
20110214, 00:35  #3 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
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Thanks. I found a proof for Proth's theorem and I see how the requirement 2^{n}>k arises.
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/F...c.php?t=184587 
20110214, 01:10  #4 
"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
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Is this theorem used for Mersenne numbers? Could it be combined with LL testing to make a faster test ?

20110214, 02:58  #5 
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20110214, 16:36  #6 
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Thanks! I actually did testing of my own the problem for me is solving for the base, the exponent is (((2^n1)1)/2) or 2^(n1)1 , So the problem becomes base^(2^(n1)1) = 1 Mod (2^n1).
Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 20110214 at 16:36 
20110214, 17:34  #7 
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20110214, 17:48  #8 
Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
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The LLR test also needs 2^n>k. Is that for pretty much the same reason?
As far as I can tell some riesel primes pass the LLR test with 2^n<k but some don't. 
20110215, 18:33  #9  
Sep 2009
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Quote:
Chris K 

20110215, 19:09  #10 
Jun 2003
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