20110415, 03:40  #1 
Aug 2006
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Extrapolation: How long until the minimum megaprime?
No doubt many are thinking of M6972593, but I mean the smallest prime with one million digits. How difficult would this be to find?
The straightforward approach would be to sieve a small number (few million) candidates to a high enough level (at least 10^14?) to remove most of the composites, and then ~10,000 pseudoprimality tests (requiring effort similar to a standard LL test  smaller numbers but not as optimized, presumably). This would be too hard to be practical today without a distributed effort, it seems, but when might it be reasonable? I would also be interested in guesses for how much longer until this number could be *proved* to be the first such prime. Unlike finding it, proving its primality might not be possible in my lifetime, barring breakthroughs in algorithms (not particularly unlikely, I suppose). 
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20110415, 09:01  #3  
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It's not a project which I'd be very interested in, TBH. Much more interesting, IMO, is to create a proven prime of some ridiculously large size and high Kolmogorov complexity by driving the N \pm 1 tests in reverse. Paul 

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10^1000000 + n for Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 20110415 at 12:08 

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I suggest that you try again. Paul P.S. 10^999999+1 is composite. Prove this. 

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20110415, 15:35  #7 
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axn: In my defense, I intended "tens (not hundreds) of thousands of tests".
I'm not asking how to do it today, but rather how long until it's easy enough that someone says "what the heck, I'll calculate that". Do you think ten years? Twenty? 
20110415, 16:09  #8 
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
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We can narrow it down to somewhere between:
http://primes.utm.edu/primes/lists/all.txt Code:
rank description digits who year comment 35 59*2^34084161 1026038 L426 2010 36 3139*2^33219051 999997 L185 2008 
20110415, 16:12  #9 
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I can't I know it's 5 mod 6 and 41 mod 120 but that's all I've worked out. I can't remember what else to work out.
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20110415, 16:16  #10 
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oh and it's 1 mod 4 by my math. which brings me back ( I believe the rule is 4x+3 as well as 6n+5, if so it can't be prime).

20110415, 16:29  #11 
"Brian"
Jul 2007
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Science Man, is there anything you notice about the numbers , , , ... ,, ... and can you prove the property for all n?

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