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View Poll Results: For vote chess game 4: to be decided, any variant would you be interested to play with?
Fischer Random Chess also known as Chess 960 0 0%
Crazyhouse 2 100.00%
Anti Chess 0 0%
King of the hill 0 0%
Atomic 0 0%
Larger chess board with fairy chess pieces 0 0%
Three check 0 0%
Racing Kings 0 0%
Horde 0 0%
Chinese chess or Shogi 0 0%
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Old 2016-11-30, 15:51   #1
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Default Vote chess game 4: To be decided? Some chess variant will be interesting to consider with!

Just because vote chess game 4 says to be decided, I thought that some chess variant which would be interesting to play with, rather than simply instead of standard chess. My pick would be either of Crazyhouse or Fischer Random Chess also known as Chess 960. Larger chess board with fairy chess pieces would also be good enough and then interesting enough!

How about Horde chess piece? Or not? Variant of chess of played game, during period of time!

For example, an engine cannot help with Crazyhouse or some other chess variants, and there can be sudden chances of victory or defeat and such result will be decisive.

Standard chess is heavily dominated by opening books and opening analysis, so Fischer Random chess also known as Chess 960 would be worthy of considering because people will have to use their brains right from the beginning of the game.

Time control can be also made as like a poll: 24 hours per move, or 72 hours per move, or 168 hours per move, after on wards! Or 48 hours per move, or 96 hours per move, or 120 hours per move, or 144 hours per move, later on wards!

You can follow my channel at lichess.org web site page to get an idea of any of these variants mentioned below in detail.

Lichess.org web site page offers with at least 9 different chess variants:
And then bullet chess, blitz chess, classical chess, correspondence chess - time controls just simply.

  1. Standard chess: The usually played chess game with the standard rules.
  2. Fischer Random chess also known as Chess 960: Because standard chess is heavily dominated by opening books and opening analysis, this chess variant might be interesting to play with. The arrangement of home rank pieces is randomized in one of possible 960 ways, with bishops being in opposite colour squares, and king coming in between two rooks. The definition of castling in this chess variant is being up to you.
  3. Anti chess: One who loses all his pieces first is the winner. Capturing is forced if there is one as like checkers. There is also a four player variant of anti chess. Pawns may also promote to king. Players intentionally hang their own pieces one by one of this chess variant. Anti chess variant of lichess.org web site page allows king to be captured just like all other pieces and a player has to get all his pieces captured to win. Anti chess variant of software application available at source forge web site page does not allow king to be captured just like all other pieces and a player can win if he manages to get his king checkmated. This is not so interesting to play with for me because average game won't last beyond 25 moves and eventhough chess engines cannot be used in this variant, many of the times, moves will be forced if there is one single capturing move available.
  4. Crazyhouse: This is a chess variant in which a player can reintroduce the captured pieces of his opponent as his own after changing colours at the most possible unpleasant locations. In this chess variant, pawns, knights and bishops increase in piece value and rooks and queens decrease in piece value.
    This is undoubtedly the most interesting chess variant to play with, in my opinion. Engines cannot help with this chess variant, so players will have to use their own brains all the time. Chess games will last longer than standard games with a similar argument to pauper variation of carrom board played game in which players will reintroduce their pieces till they become pauper. In crazyhouse chess variant, players will reintroduce captured pieces of their opponent by changing their colour till they have no more pieces to reintroduce with. Rich becomes richer and poor becomes poorer. This chess variant can take twists and turns all the time and fate of the game changes all the time with opponent captured pieces reintroduced after changing colours at the most possible unpleasant locations.
    More number of legal moves available each time. Standard checkmates can be blocked with captured pieces of opponent till the checkmating piece comes adjacent to opponent's king square. I am not sure if whether the result is always decisive and then winning for either player - I am not sure if whether draws will be possible after all, at all in this chess variant.
  5. Atomic: If a piece is captured, then all surrounding pieces including the capturing piece will be destroyed. So, a king is not allowed to capture because it will also be exploded by the capture. Any surrounding pawns during a capture is not destroyed at all.
    In my opinion, this chess variant is not very interesting to play with, because it does not last more than about 15 moves up on average scale and if a player is careless, he is doomed. Enemy pieces should not be allowed into entering with home territory at all, always be blocked by using pawns. I am not sure if whether this chess variant is being a win for the first player. But again over here by, engines cannot help with this chess variant, so players will have to use their own brains all the time. Chess is a psychological game, so with perfect strategy and tactics, it is always likely a draw. New checkmating configurations will be made possible with this chess variant which ever will not be a checkmating configuration in the standard chess variant.
  6. King of the hill: Who ever first gets their king to the center of the board or checkmates their opponent first wins the game. Unless one player gets checkmated, games of this chess variant should last for shorter period of time than the standard chess variant. It is not a good habit in developing king at first as like many of chess opponents whom ever I played at lichess.org web site page did so with. They will be surrounded by using all the opponent's minor pieces or even get checkmated if whether the chess player is being careless enough. Engine analysis of this chess variant can get deviated from the standard chess variant, but for all chess variants available to be played up on lichess.org web site page, an engine seems to be appearing over there by.
    For the vote chess game 3 of 'The Evil King and his minions' versus 'Morphy's Minions', you used lichess.org web site page just simply because I had mentioned about that web site page which is being mentioned about in the 'Our favourite variant of chess' thread?
  7. Three check: Who ever first gives three checks to the opponent or checkmates their opponent first wins the game. Unless one player gets checkmated, games of this chess variant should last for shorter period of time than the standard chess variant. Lichess.org web site page defines three overall checks from the beginning of the game but you may consider with three consecutive checks if you would want to play with. Three checks can be given tactically and then strategically losing a player's chess pieces! Engine analysis of this chess variant can get deviated from the standard chess variant.
    Check. Why ever is it being called as - known as so? Ever. Check the threats to the king this turn. If you don't, I will capture your king during next turn.
    Check. Word sense disambiguation. Cf. See also: Synsets. Python - Natural Language Tool kit library - NLTK library. nltk.word_tokenize(sentence) = sentence.split(' ').
    It can mean chess check, poker check, American money check even though it is being cheque in the British money. Or it can mean the usual check word - in to examining with types of things carefully enough.
    Antimony - Anti money - chemical element that which ever is being ever against currency.
    Joke Drum: What city is the costliest to live in? Electricity.
    Why is it called as - known as Joke Drum?
  8. Horde: 36 pawns versus standard chess variant pieces. Starting from this following board position. Pawns in the second rank are being allowed to move on with two squares forward. Not sure about the pawns in the first rank. Games of this chess variant should last for longer period of time than the standard chess variant. Engines cannot help with this chess variant, so players will have to use their own brains all the time.
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    I have played only a very few games of this chess variant in order to discuss this type of thing in the detail, but any way they are being under half way played of game, during period of time.
    In the lichess.org web site page, every chess variant available to be played up on over there by, seems to be appearing having got with an icon!
  9. Racing Kings: Starting from this following board position, who ever first takes their king to the eighth rank, wins the game. Giving checks against the opponent's king is not being allowed at all in this chess variant. Because white colour chess pieces of this variant starts game play immediately followed by using black colour chess pieces of this variant, so if black finishes race immediately after on wards to that of white, then it is considered with as like a draw, which is being the definite decisive strategy and then tactic involved in this variant of chess in the white and then black colour pieces of chess. Played of game, during period of time.
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    This chess variant does not last more than about 20 moves up on average scale. Engines cannot help with this chess variant, so players will have to use their own brains all the time. Played of game, during period of time.
Also in this chess variant, if whether you block a potential check with a heavy piece (giving direct checks in this chess variant are not being allowed), then make sure that moving your own king after on wards does not pin the piece, or you will lose that chess piece for free which is being variant of chess piece to play with. Or move your king in to the such a way so that, such that removing your own check blocking heavy piece with some opponent's enemy any piece will always potentially result in to the check, always potentially. Giving direct checks in this chess variant are not being allowed.
Or you can always mix with any two or further more of the chess variants.
Or you might always consider with my own different ideas variants of chess. They all lack with a sound starting position. So, you may need to come up with some of the starting positions ideas ever. Ever.
  1. Hostage chess is a variant of chess in which a player can reintroduce their own chess pieces again into the game rather than instead of captured opponent's pieces reintroduction after on wards changing with their own colour. This seems to be appearing a never ending variant of chess of played game, during period of time. Or not? Variant of chess of played game, during period of time.
  2. There is mini chess 6 × 6 board being available. There is mega chess 10 × 10 board being available. Fairy chess pieces can be introduced. For example, amazon is a piece which can move like a knight and queen. Empress is a piece which can move like a knight and rook. Princess is a piece which can move like a knight and bishop.
    If knight is a piece that does (1, 2) leap, then camel is a piece that does (1, 3) leap. Zebra is a piece that does (2, 3) leap. Ferz is a piece that does (1, 1) leap. Alfil is a piece that does (2, 2) leap. Tripper is a piece that does (3, 3) leap. Wazir is a piece that does (0, 1) leap. Dabbaba is a piece that does (0, 2) leap. Threeleaper is a piece that does (0, 3) leap. Giraffe is a piece that does (1, 4) leap.
    Zero is a piece that does (0, 0) leap. This is being a stationary chess piece. Or not? Variant of chess of played game, during period of time.
    For 10 × 10 chess board, the pieces can be 10 pawns, 2 rooks, 2 knights, 2 bishops, 2 queens, 1 king and 1 piece which can move like in both a queen and a knight for the either of the two sides like in game played.
    The ranks can be named as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0.
    The files can be named as a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j.
  3. Chess rules can be modified in order to support with 4 players or further less than 2 players or further more than 2 players.
  4. Chinese chess or Shogi. Shogi is Japanese Chess. Android Applications are being available for both of these following 2 chess variants. It was long back enough when ever I had played with them again ever. Ideas. Ideas. They are slow moving variants of chess to play with, with the pieces allowed to move at most two squares at a time from their own position right now and then. From time to time. They are not very interesting variants of chess to play with, with the king piece occupying with its own territory and then the enemy pieces have got to invade with the king piece's land in order to attack with the king piece. Further more over ever, the pieces names were marked in to the Chinese or Japanese language, so that such that it was being easier in to the getting utterly confused of this variants of chess pieces to play with. Chinese or Japanese language package distribution programming scripting code. Ideas. Ever. Ideas. Korean. Science. Chinese. Japanese.
  5. Or do you think about it is being worthy of trying out some other strategy and then tactics played games solvable rather than making of sense with instead of variants of chess pieces to play with types of things?
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Old 2016-11-30, 16:38   #2
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for me it wouldn't matter I suck at all the ones on the list I know about lol.
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Personally I would quite like us to play against a decently weak chess engine(i.e. beatable).
My dad has been writing one for a few years that isn't too strong. It should be beatable as long as we don't give it too long time controls. He would be quite interested I think if we could come up with some weaknesses that he can fix.
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No one else voted for the poll except for me!

People are not being interested at all in trying out a variant of chess game played? I understand!

There are also 3D chess and Trichess, I had once downloaded Trichess Android application from the Google Play Store three years ago and then tried it out. I do not remember correctly, but there was trouble playing Trichess which is likely to be a three player triangular board variant of chess. It was either because application hanged too much or it was difficult in playing pieces and then placing pieces with 3D or three player triangular board variant of chess or application exited on its own or application was not starting or application was too slow or I did not understand the rules properly or strategy and then tactics was being perfectly tricky enough or application was too much space consuming enough or the rules were significantly different enough from the standard variant of chess.

Games such as those like Tic Tac Toe, Checkers, Tetris besides that of Chess can also be tried with in in to the three dimensional board. D in 3D stands for dimension?

Look at the Wikipedia web site page on the list of chess variants. We have also got hexagonal board, rhombic board, rectangular board besides that of square board similarly to that of different 2D shape boards for Peg Solitaire, and different 3D shape puzzles for Rubik's cube including that of Platonic Solids and then prism and then pyramid for rolling dice falling and then similarly to that of finger counting. Fibonacci and then Lucas fashion. By using Zeckendorf representations, and then powers of an integer age finding cards. I will be able to discuss about them later on wards.

Moves of variation lines such as those like 1. e4 f6 2. d4 Kf7 or 1. f3 e5 2. Kf2 d5 will only be popular in the variant of chess Kriegspiel namely a variant of blind fold chess version likely enough and then namely enough?

Touch piece rule, adjust rule.

J' adoube = I adjust. Too late.

Bughouse is a four player variant of chess game played.

Or consider Handicap chess variant of chess game played in which a stronger player will play as Black without the f7 pawn against a weaker player who ever will be playing as White.

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Personally I would quite like us to play against a decently weak chess engine(i.e. beatable).
My dad has been writing one for a few years that isn't too strong. It should be beatable as long as we don't give it too long time controls. He would be quite interested I think if we could come up with some weaknesses that he can fix.
Lichess.org web site page contains AI opponents for all variants of chess game played available over there by. Of different skill levels from one to eight.
Standard, crazyhouse, fischer random chess also known as chess 960, anti chess, atomic, king of the hill, three check, horde, racing kings.
Analysis board.

Many of the times pairing types of things solves with most of the problems, further more and then further less.

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Not to restrain from mentioning within the following chess variants
AntiChess

chess 960
Should have been
refrain not restrain?

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Hydrogen is abundant and can be obtained from water although it is volatile, lighter than air and can escape from surface of Earth easily, not from hydrogen abundant gas giant planets like Jupiter and Saturn and surface of Sun. Water is precious resource, we should not let hydrogen escape from surface of Earth by using hydrogen of fuel and then by using or splitting of water in to hydrogen and oxygen by using process of electrolysis.

On the other hand, helium is costly, chemically inert and so does not bind to any other chemical element, escapes from surface of Earth easily. So does neon. Argon-40 mostly found out in surface of Earth's atmosphere is mostly being formed by using decay of Potassium-40. Argon-36 is mostly isotope of Argon favourable to be formed in stars. This is first violation of arrangement in periodic table by using increasing order of atomic mass, not atomic number.

Hydrogen is an explosive fuel, but on the other hand helium is safe, even though air atmosphere replaced by using noble gases leads to suffocation problems. Before the advent of aeroplanes, hydrogen filled dirigibles and then zeppelins were being used for air travel from Europe to America and then America to Europe. It exploded in to flames, that is reason why even now helium is used for filling gas balloons. In my young age, I let free a gas balloon to escape from surface of Earth controlled gravitational pull. It went in to back ground of stars.

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And then mercury vapour lamp is being line spectrum of red blue green coloured light. Cf. See also: Colour mixing: None black, Primary colours red green blue, secondary colours yellow cyan magenta, tertiary colours white. My mother is being physics major, right now it has got little of value. Dynamic changing surface of world environments, yes. Not, static steady state surface of Earth. Seeing sodium vapour lamp and then mercury vapour lamp at physics lab at Mint Arts College, University my mother's eyes got spoilt. Wavelength is inversely being proportional to frequency. Electromagnetic spectrum: Radio waves, Television waves, Micro waves, Infra Red, Visible Spectrum, Ultra violet, X-rays, Gamma Rays, Cosmic Rays. Cf. See also: De Broglie Waves. Corpuscular theory of light packets is being demonstrated by using reflection, refraction, scattering, dispersion, photo electric effect. Wave nature of light photons is being demonstrated by using reflection, refraction, interference, diffraction, polarization - principle behind operation of lasers. Light amplification by using stimulated emission of radiation. Cf. See also: Spontaneous emission and then stimulated emission.
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No one else voted for the poll except for me!

People are not being interested at all in trying out a variant of chess game played? I understand!
The poll is decided! It's crazyhouse (the bughouse for two).

Unfortunately even this game flavor was already computerized - you have no chances*, if you played against me (armed with the program the name of which I will not tell you).

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In other news, unrelatedly: Raman, you may want to stop brainfscking with people if you want them to pay attention to you. Most people are simply blown away and never read even one more of your messages. Is that really the effect you are trying to have on people? Try to internalize your peculiar thought process.
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* well, to be precise you have [I]very little[/I] chances. I have found some players on the internet many years ago who could beat the program - but only 10-20% of the time.
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The poll is decided! It's crazyhouse (the bughouse for two).

Unfortunately even this game flavor was already computerized - you have no chances*, if you played against me (armed with the program the name of which I will not tell you).

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* well, to be precise you have very little chances. I have found some players on the internet many years ago who could beat the program - but only 10-20% of the time.
I am guessing that name of Crazyhouse variant of chess engine you mention is being Sjeng. Correct or not? After searching through out Google engine by using on line.

Computers are strong tactically, yes - but not strategically. Computers may be likely making only major errors strategically occasionally and then periodically.

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In other news, unrelatedly: Raman, you may want to stop brainfscking with people if you want them to pay attention to you. Most people are simply blown away and never read even one more of your messages. Is that really the effect you are trying to have on people? Try to internalize your peculiar thought process.
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MOD hat only makes sense for personal insults, crank activities like false claims to have proved a theorem, vandalism activities, etc.

What do you mean by using 'brainfscking with people'?
What do you mean by using 'Try to internalize your peculiar thought process'?

This is hobbies forum. This post does not hopefully believing that it does not disrupt with any project activities right now at all!
Also I believe that sharing of Whatsapp messenger jokes can be done in Fun Stuff forum.
Also I believe that latter half part of my last post must go in the Science and Technology forum.
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