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2021-06-05, 21:16   #111
Viliam Furik

"Viliam Furík"
Jul 2018
Martin, Slovakia

22×163 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by VBCurtis You quoted my post and my questions, but didn't address why your machine overheats; you merely confirmed that it does. Why does it do so? "it's old" isn't a cause of overheating. So, I'll repeat myself- if you aren't able to grasp why a machine would overheat, and aren't able to solve the overheating problem, why will a new machine not overheat? That fancy GPU you list is going to make more heat than the GPU you have now, right? Why will that heat not matter?

 2021-06-05, 21:18 #112 tuckerkao   "Tucker Kao" Jan 2020 Head Base M168202123 1101011012 Posts The liquid coolants are almost depleted for my CPU, I already opened my case up and dust the cards off. Once I get the new machine, I'll place it in the basement, not the 2nd floor. There should be a liquid cooling variant of the new GPU model soon. I'll have to shop for the new desk too. Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-06-05 at 21:22
 2021-06-07, 04:24 #113 tuckerkao   "Tucker Kao" Jan 2020 Head Base M168202123 3·11·13 Posts I do wish UncWilly can write some programs, so when I type 168,***,323 into the exponent status search, I can get the list like showing below. Details of all M168,***,323 exponents without the known factors. M168020323 -> TF to 2^77 M168021323 -> TF to 2^76 M168089323 -> TF to 2^77 M168104323 -> TF to 2^77 M168116323 -> TF to 2^77 M168126323 -> TF to 2^76 M168129323 -> TF to 2^76 M168173323 -> TF to 2^77 M168174323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168191323 -> TF to 2^77 M168213323 -> TF to 2^76 M168219323 -> TF to 2^76 M168233323 -> TF to 2^77 M168254323 -> TF to 2^77 M168261323 -> TF to 2^76 M168285323 -> TF to 2^76 M168290323 -> TF to 2^77 M168308323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168314323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168336323 -> TF to 2^77 M168345323 -> TF to 2^77 M168377323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 & C-PRP M168438323 -> TF to 2^77 M168476323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 & Ongoing PRP M168479323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168485323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168489323 -> TF to 2^77 M168539323 -> TF to 2^77 M168542323 -> TF to 2^77 M168548323 -> TF to 2^77 M168566323 -> TF to 2^77 M168599323 -> TF to 2^77 M168639323 -> TF to 2^76 M168662323 -> TF to 2^77 M168692323 -> TF to 2^77 M168704323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168705323 -> TF to 2^76 M168768323 -> TF to 2^76 M168779323 -> TF to 2^78 & NF-PM1 M168830323 -> TF to 2^77 M168831323 -> TF to 2^77 M168852323 -> TF to 2^76 M168884323 -> TF to 2^77 M168899323 -> TF to 2^77 M168903323 -> TF to 2^76 M168927323 -> TF to 2^77 M168999323 -> TF to 2^76
2021-06-07, 23:15   #114
mathwiz

Mar 2019

22×72 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao I do wish UncWilly can write some programs, so when I type 168,***,323 into the exponent status search, I can get the list like showing below.
Why do you expect Uncwilly to write this for you? Learn Python or another language and write it yourself.

2021-06-07, 23:27   #115
Uncwilly
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Aug 2003
101×103 Posts

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by mathwiz Why do you expect Uncwilly to write this for you? Learn Python or another language and write it yourself.
Also, the likelihood of someone doing something like that for you goes up in relationship to your apparent effort toward the goals. When Villiam was looking to run some TF to check if exponents had been missed, I grabbed the posted data and prepped some worktodo files. I know that he has been very helpful in many areas. So in this useful area I helped to facility his useful work.

2021-06-08, 18:36   #116
tuckerkao

"Tucker Kao"
Jan 2020

Quote:
 Originally Posted by mathwiz Why do you expect Uncwilly to write this for you? Learn Python or another language and write it yourself.
At least UncWilly has taught me how to efficiency link up the Mersenne exponents with the corresponding numbers, so I can post my trial factoring list here, takes a bit of time, but at least achievable.

I still believe it's better to run P-1 factoring before TF from 2^77 to 2^78 because M168173323 has shown the prove. F-PM1 with a factor found between 2^81 to 2^82.

Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-06-08 at 18:37

2021-06-09, 09:01   #117
tuckerkao

"Tucker Kao"
Jan 2020

6558 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Uncwilly Today there was a significant internet outage. This might be the reason.
Everybody including ViliamF and you told me Ben Delo is not active in the forum, but here comes the big guy, what happened?

Quote:
 Originally Posted by mathwiz If you tell us the next Mersenne prime, we'll believe it!
I still believe the next Mersenne Prime is in the format of M168,***,*23, only Ben Delo has enough fast engines to run that many PRPs. Hopefully he can hop on M168308323, M168485323, M168548323

Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-06-09 at 09:26

2021-06-09, 09:39   #118
Viliam Furik

"Viliam Furík"
Jul 2018
Martin, Slovakia

10100011002 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao Everybody including ViliamF and you told me Ben Delo is not active in the forum, but here comes the big guy, what happened?
Last previous post in March, the total number of posts being the M3 (i.e. 7), and last post today.

This doesn't seem like a definition of active to me...

2021-06-09, 13:44   #119
LaurV
Romulan Interpreter

Jun 2011
Thailand

3·3,251 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao I still believe it's better to run P-1 factoring before TF from 2^77 to 2^78 because M168173323 has shown the prove. F-PM1 with a factor found between 2^81 to 2^82.
That is actually true. Which proves the fact that even a stopped clock shows the time with a very high accuracy, two times per day.

Not long before, we used to run P-1 before the last bit of TF, because it was proved to be more efficient that way. Since lots of things changed here around, like gpuOwl (with its faster FFT and combined PRP+P-1) substituting cudaLucas, switching from two LL's to one PRP plus Cert (therefore less work saved when a factor is found) etc, people don't do that anymore, or very few people still do it, but theoretically, doing P-1 before last TF bit is still more efficient (it will find more factors per time unit).

2021-06-09, 18:18   #120
mathwiz

Mar 2019

C416 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao I still believe the next Mersenne Prime is in the format of M168,***,*23
Do you have any actual math to base this "belief" on? Or is it based on astrology / tea leaves?

Quote:
 only Ben Delo has enough fast engines to run that many PRPs. Hopefully he can hop on M168308323, M168485323, M168548323
If you feel that strongly, you should probably run them yourself.

 2021-06-09, 18:39 #121 paulunderwood     Sep 2002 Database er0rr 13·293 Posts

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