Strategic Double Clicking - Page 151

rudi_m · 2018-01-29, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

I haven't done an updated "potentially bad" list in a while, so here goes. Top 100 by their bad/good ratio, then re-sorted by exponent size:

I took all below 55M. A few of them were already taken by anonymous.

Madpoo · 2018-01-29, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubslow

But it was asked for, by ixfd64 himself (1643), before kruoli made his own comment (1644).

Correct, and it was ixfd64 I replied to. For exponents that haven't done stage 2 (where B1=B2 presumably), that info should be available on the site by looking at the P-1 history for the exponent. And for exponents where P-1 isn't sufficient, mersenne.ca has that.

I did once undertake a project to look for exponents where P-1 had been done with no results, and a factor was found later that *should* have been found, but it was a tedious process and involved some external (outside of SQL) work to figure it out with any level of confidence. In the end I gave up because the return on all that work was minimal. People doing P-1 work may be flaky, but I figured there's a good chance we've already seen their flakiness through LL double-checks.

Now, if you asked me to generate a list of really bad machines (judging by their LL results) and which exponents they've done factoring work on with no results, I could do that. If someone wanted to re-run their P-1/TF work, for example.

kruoli · 2018-01-30, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

If you asked me to generate a list of really bad machines (judging by their LL results) and which exponents they've done factoring work on with no results, I could do that. If someone wanted to re-run their P-1/TF work, for example.

I guess that's a lot... I'd like to do a statistical sample of P-1 runs of previous flaky machines (like 128 assignments or so).

Madpoo · 2018-01-31, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kruoli

I guess that's a lot... I'd like to do a statistical sample of P-1 runs of previous flaky machines (like 128 assignments or so).

Well... give this a shot. These are P-1 results done by machines with a history of bad LL results (I show the overall bad/good as an indication).

For the worktodo line, I didn't actually try out the pminus1 but I think that's the right format... basically I took (I think) the same b1/b2 that the bad computer used, and I'm adding 1000 to B2 otherwise Primenet won't accept the result since it would be the same as before...assuming no factor found.

For results that only had a B1 (b2 is null in the database or b1=b2) I'm just using the generic pfactor format which lets Prime95 pick it's own bounds based on how many LL tests would be saved. I'm assuming 1 test saved in all cases even though for some there may be zero tests saved (it's already double-checked).

Anyway, it's a first draft so see what you think. The formatting will be all wonky because of the tab separated columns... oh well.

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Raw Result                 	Worktodo
55544063	22	1	B1=595000, B2=13982500, E=12	Pminus1=1,2,55544063,-1,595000,13983500
55550617	22	1	B1=595000, B2=13982500, E=12	Pminus1=1,2,55550617,-1,595000,13983500
55831921	22	1	B1=560000, B2=12180000, E=12	Pminus1=1,2,55831921,-1,560000,12181000
57532771	22	1	B1=610000, B2=14487500, E=12	Pminus1=1,2,57532771,-1,610000,14488500
66847421	20	1	B1=790000	Pfactor=1,2,66847421,-1,75,1
66847457	20	1	B1=790000	Pfactor=1,2,66847457,-1,75,1
67923451	20	1	B1=720000	Pfactor=1,2,67923451,-1,75,1
76011787	20	1	B1=945000	Pfactor=1,2,76011787,-1,75,1
50198003	18	0	B1=595000, B2=17552500	Pminus1=1,2,50198003,-1,595000,17553500
51094009	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51094009,-1,610000,17996000
51094073	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51094073,-1,610000,17996000
51146033	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51146033,-1,610000,17996000
51146087	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51146087,-1,610000,17996000
51146269	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51146269,-1,610000,17996000
51155359	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51155359,-1,610000,17996000
51174661	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51174661,-1,610000,17996000
51174677	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51174677,-1,610000,17996000
51191939	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51191939,-1,610000,17996000
51201541	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51201541,-1,610000,17996000
51201589	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51201589,-1,610000,17996000
51201613	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51201613,-1,610000,17996000
51224603	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51224603,-1,610000,17996000
51224623	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51224623,-1,610000,17996000
51224713	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51224713,-1,610000,17996000
51242629	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51242629,-1,610000,17996000
51242671	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51242671,-1,610000,17996000
51255821	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51255821,-1,610000,17996000
51282953	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51282953,-1,610000,17996000
51282989	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51282989,-1,610000,17996000
51282997	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51282997,-1,610000,17996000
51283007	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51283007,-1,610000,17996000
51290359	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51290359,-1,615000,19219750
51290429	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51290429,-1,615000,19219750
51290501	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51290501,-1,615000,19219750
51290609	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51290609,-1,615000,19219750
51312329	18	0	B1=610000, B2=17995000	Pminus1=1,2,51312329,-1,610000,17996000
51344387	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51344387,-1,615000,19219750
51344411	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51344411,-1,615000,19219750
51344581	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51344581,-1,615000,19219750
51344627	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51344627,-1,615000,19219750
51344639	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51344639,-1,615000,19219750
51376673	18	0	B1=615000, B2=19218750	Pminus1=1,2,51376673,-1,615000,19219750
44724187	16	0	B1=540000, B2=15525000, E=6	Pminus1=1,2,44724187,-1,540000,15526000
44724431	16	0	B1=540000, B2=15525000, E=6	Pminus1=1,2,44724431,-1,540000,15526000
45508889	16	0	B1=545000, B2=12943750	Pminus1=1,2,45508889,-1,545000,12944750
45769417	16	0	B1=560000, B2=15960000, E=6	Pminus1=1,2,45769417,-1,560000,15961000
47561753	16	0	B1=550000, B2=12237500	Pminus1=1,2,47561753,-1,550000,12238500
49019207	16	0	B1=560000, B2=12740000	Pminus1=1,2,49019207,-1,560000,12741000
49149887	16	0	B1=570000, B2=13965000	Pminus1=1,2,49149887,-1,570000,13966000
49285787	16	0	B1=570000, B2=14107500	Pminus1=1,2,49285787,-1,570000,14108500
40591717	15	1	B1=415000, B2=3423750	Pminus1=1,2,40591717,-1,415000,3424750
45031201	15	1	B1=475000, B2=3918750	Pminus1=1,2,45031201,-1,475000,3919750
46172479	15	1	B1=480000, B2=4080000	Pminus1=1,2,46172479,-1,480000,4081000
47143319	15	1	B1=500000, B2=4375000	Pminus1=1,2,47143319,-1,500000,4376000
48075583	15	1	B1=475000, B2=3800000	Pminus1=1,2,48075583,-1,475000,3801000
48544733	15	1	B1=480000, B2=3840000	Pminus1=1,2,48544733,-1,480000,3841000
50663881	13	0	B1=815000	Pfactor=1,2,50663881,-1,73,1
55312637	13	0	B1=580000, B2=12180000	Pminus1=1,2,55312637,-1,580000,12181000
55373881	13	0	B1=580000, B2=12180000	Pminus1=1,2,55373881,-1,580000,12181000
56022023	13	0	B1=585000, B2=12285000	Pminus1=1,2,56022023,-1,585000,12286000
57016501	13	0	B1=600000, B2=12750000	Pminus1=1,2,57016501,-1,600000,12751000
57035681	13	0	B1=600000, B2=12750000	Pminus1=1,2,57035681,-1,600000,12751000
57089881	13	0	B1=600000, B2=12750000	Pminus1=1,2,57089881,-1,600000,12751000
58229173	13	0	B1=530000, B2=9805000	Pminus1=1,2,58229173,-1,530000,9806000
58417699	13	0	B1=535000, B2=9897500	Pminus1=1,2,58417699,-1,535000,9898500
58472059	13	0	B1=540000, B2=10260000	Pminus1=1,2,58472059,-1,540000,10261000
66061663	12	0	B1=625000, B2=11718750	Pminus1=1,2,66061663,-1,625000,11719750
44813429	12	1	B1=755000	Pfactor=1,2,44813429,-1,72,1
48470101	12	1	B1=690000	Pfactor=1,2,48470101,-1,73,1
48553259	12	1	B1=765000	Pfactor=1,2,48553259,-1,72,1
49268189	12	1	B1=785000	Pfactor=1,2,49268189,-1,73,1
50381561	12	1	B1=815000	Pfactor=1,2,50381561,-1,73,1
38625259	12	1	B1=455000, B2=10465000	Pminus1=1,2,38625259,-1,455000,10466000
45285043	12	1	B1=530000, B2=10997500	Pminus1=1,2,45285043,-1,530000,10998500
45923561	12	1	B1=540000, B2=11205000	Pminus1=1,2,45923561,-1,540000,11206000
45923573	12	1	B1=540000, B2=11205000	Pminus1=1,2,45923573,-1,540000,11206000
46086427	12	1	B1=540000, B2=11475000	Pminus1=1,2,46086427,-1,540000,11476000
47698199	11	1	B1=560000, B2=14560000, E=6	Pminus1=1,2,47698199,-1,560000,14561000
48282683	11	1	B1=565000, B2=14831250, E=6	Pminus1=1,2,48282683,-1,565000,14832250
51940379	11	1	B1=610000, B2=16622500	Pminus1=1,2,51940379,-1,610000,16623500
52523179	11	1	B1=625000, B2=18125000	Pminus1=1,2,52523179,-1,625000,18126000
52658597	11	1	B1=625000, B2=18281250	Pminus1=1,2,52658597,-1,625000,18282250
53186599	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53186599,-1,630000,18586000
53194793	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53194793,-1,630000,18586000
53204449	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53204449,-1,630000,18586000
53213717	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53213717,-1,630000,18586000
53217623	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53217623,-1,630000,18586000
53227609	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53227609,-1,630000,18586000
53236411	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53236411,-1,630000,18586000
53248271	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53248271,-1,630000,18586000
53251321	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53251321,-1,630000,18586000
53265307	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53265307,-1,630000,18586000
53275457	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18585000	Pminus1=1,2,53275457,-1,630000,18586000
53288111	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18742500	Pminus1=1,2,53288111,-1,630000,18743500
53295313	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18742500	Pminus1=1,2,53295313,-1,630000,18743500
53313859	11	1	B1=630000, B2=18742500	Pminus1=1,2,53313859,-1,630000,18743500
53317531	11	1	B1=635000, B2=18732500	Pminus1=1,2,53317531,-1,635000,18733500
53318677	11	1	B1=635000, B2=18732500	Pminus1=1,2,53318677,-1,635000,18733500
53330087	11	1	B1=635000, B2=18732500	Pminus1=1,2,53330087,-1,635000,18733500
53334301	11	1	B1=635000, B2=18732500	Pminus1=1,2,53334301,-1,635000,18733500

kruoli · 2018-01-31, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Really nice! Thank you, I just started them. :) I expect completion until sunday, maybe earlier.

Madpoo · 2018-02-01, 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kruoli

Really nice! Thank you, I just started them. :) I expect completion until sunday, maybe earlier.

It'll be interesting if you find any factors that they missed. Be sure to report back.

kruoli · 2018-02-04, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Be sure to report back.

There is a worktodo-balancer on mersenne.ca I used and I think I (or the tool) messed something up, because when I reported the results, one result was reported five times for some reason, so I'll have to double check all assignments next week.

To be honest: I was happy how much factors I found even though the assigments were mixed up! At least this factors are new:
M51201541: 210540115898402275709231 (new because of higher B1/B2)
M51290501: 47153684183842011237377 (new because of higher B1/B2)
M51312329: 5077512197613065330700319 (originally missed)
M76011787: 455025836007106789934273 (originally missed)

kruoli · 2018-02-05, 19:45

There were at least also this new factors:
M55373881: 938906081277121521257527 (originally missed)
M56022023: 190309687063496241088031 (new because of higher B1/B2)
M58229173: 409348844571818200473806441 (originally missed)

Madpoo · 2018-02-19, 19:09

Here's a new list. I left it sorted so that the most likely to be bad are up top (I didn't re-sort by exponent size).

I just left out the other details about the # of bad/good since in some cases those are zero and I'm basing it on the computer's total history, not just for that one time period.

Code:

DoubleCheck=55571039,73,1
DoubleCheck=53075117,73,1
DoubleCheck=53091767,73,1
DoubleCheck=52592473,73,1
DoubleCheck=54555803,73,1
DoubleCheck=50020891,73,1
DoubleCheck=54965531,73,1
DoubleCheck=55074739,73,1
DoubleCheck=55257949,73,1
DoubleCheck=47534321,73,1
DoubleCheck=47555407,73,1
DoubleCheck=47560691,73,1
DoubleCheck=47866087,73,1
DoubleCheck=47866277,73,1
DoubleCheck=54346043,73,1
DoubleCheck=52575517,73,1
DoubleCheck=47205791,73,1
DoubleCheck=50106379,73,1
DoubleCheck=54244891,73,1
DoubleCheck=54246013,73,1
DoubleCheck=51012001,73,1
DoubleCheck=52003447,73,1
DoubleCheck=46116199,73,1
DoubleCheck=53980453,73,1
DoubleCheck=53980987,73,1
DoubleCheck=53981159,73,1
DoubleCheck=53981197,73,1
DoubleCheck=51384799,73,1
DoubleCheck=51418849,73,1
DoubleCheck=53078483,73,1
DoubleCheck=53357287,73,1
DoubleCheck=53981857,73,1
DoubleCheck=54274919,73,1
DoubleCheck=56200643,73,1
DoubleCheck=47599613,73,1
DoubleCheck=50280869,73,1
DoubleCheck=55175213,73,1
DoubleCheck=55276763,73,1
DoubleCheck=52956031,73,1
DoubleCheck=52964053,73,1
DoubleCheck=52995751,73,1
DoubleCheck=47341373,73,1
DoubleCheck=47593577,73,1
DoubleCheck=52873967,73,1
DoubleCheck=56782877,73,1
DoubleCheck=46832077,73,1
DoubleCheck=49078069,73,1
DoubleCheck=50211947,73,1
DoubleCheck=44542951,72,1
DoubleCheck=45220531,73,1
DoubleCheck=45867469,73,1
DoubleCheck=46254941,73,1
DoubleCheck=49334429,73,1
DoubleCheck=51277747,73,1
DoubleCheck=54122351,73,1
DoubleCheck=55174607,73,1
DoubleCheck=55229261,73,1
DoubleCheck=56152909,73,1
DoubleCheck=47561749,73,1
DoubleCheck=45821047,73,1
DoubleCheck=45924019,73,1
DoubleCheck=46113517,73,1
DoubleCheck=50209303,73,1
DoubleCheck=51065981,73,1
DoubleCheck=51988093,73,1
DoubleCheck=54570847,73,1
DoubleCheck=56147587,73,1
DoubleCheck=56149057,73,1
DoubleCheck=44897819,73,1
DoubleCheck=52742681,73,1
DoubleCheck=53981867,73,1
DoubleCheck=54200551,73,1
DoubleCheck=54306583,73,1
DoubleCheck=54314837,73,1
DoubleCheck=56929811,73,1
DoubleCheck=44583403,72,1
DoubleCheck=54588533,73,1
DoubleCheck=47568889,73,1
DoubleCheck=54277523,73,1
DoubleCheck=54281791,73,1
DoubleCheck=54334823,73,1
DoubleCheck=46253791,73,1
DoubleCheck=53413799,73,1
DoubleCheck=56850593,73,1
DoubleCheck=51997697,73,1
DoubleCheck=55145521,73,1
DoubleCheck=54545663,73,1
DoubleCheck=56086649,73,1
DoubleCheck=56607701,74,1
DoubleCheck=47896301,73,1
DoubleCheck=52883483,73,1
DoubleCheck=53134253,73,1
DoubleCheck=53406917,73,1
DoubleCheck=53617877,73,1
DoubleCheck=54895903,73,1
DoubleCheck=55356113,73,1
DoubleCheck=55366643,73,1
DoubleCheck=55738409,74,1
DoubleCheck=55745309,73,1
DoubleCheck=55861261,74,1

Prime95 · 2018-02-19, 20:24

I've registered the first eight:

Code:

DoubleCheck=55571039,73,1
DoubleCheck=53075117,73,1
DoubleCheck=53091767,73,1
DoubleCheck=52592473,73,1
DoubleCheck=54555803,73,1
DoubleCheck=50020891,73,1
DoubleCheck=54965531,73,1
DoubleCheck=55074739,73,1

endless mike · 2018-02-21, 17:09

I've taken the next 15

Code:

DoubleCheck=55257949,73,1
DoubleCheck=47534321,73,1
DoubleCheck=47555407,73,1
DoubleCheck=47560691,73,1
DoubleCheck=47866087,73,1
DoubleCheck=47866277,73,1
DoubleCheck=54346043,73,1
DoubleCheck=52575517,73,1
DoubleCheck=47205791,73,1
DoubleCheck=50106379,73,1
DoubleCheck=54244891,73,1
DoubleCheck=54246013,73,1
DoubleCheck=51012001,73,1
DoubleCheck=52003447,73,1
DoubleCheck=46116199,73,1

2018-02-05, 19:45	#1658
kruoli "Oliver" Sep 2017 Porta Westfalica, DE 13·37 Posts	Addendum: There were at least also this new factors: M55373881: 938906081277121521257527 (originally missed) M56022023: 190309687063496241088031 (new because of higher B1/B2) M58229173: 409348844571818200473806441 (originally missed)

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