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Old 2012-04-17, 08:49   #1
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I did a C185 from Fib1049 (Sean Irvine beat me to it, but I finished it) by GGNFS (yafu) all by myself except the poly you gave me, and that was the largest successful personal attempt. But I asked because I imagine that ratio between the effort on a C204 and the effort on a C185 is the same as the ratio between a C185 and a C155, (a+b)/b=b/a, as we are talking golden ratio now :P

Short version, the C204 would need much more effort, time, resources and... knowledge than I can afford.

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Old 2012-04-17, 11:27   #2
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I did a C185 from Fib1049 (Sean Irvine beat me to it, but I finished it) by GGNFS (yafu) all by myself except the poly you gave me, and that was the largest successful personal attempt. But I asked because I imagine that ratio between the effort on a C204 and the effort on a C185 is the same as the ratio between a C185 and a C155, (a+b)/b=b/a, as we are talking golden ratio now :P

Short version, the C204 would need much more effort, time, resources and... knowledge than I can afford.
Typical ignorant remarks from someone who refuses to study this subject.
F1049 was a C219 (not C185) and was done via SNFS by Sean. Anyone
who might have tried to do the C185 by GNFS rather than the (far
easier!) C219 by SNFS would need to have his/her head examined.

Are you actually claiming that you did the C185 by GNFS????

The C204 is via GNFS.

Yet you blather about a "ratio between the C204 and a C185" and the
"golden ratio" (as if the latter had any relevance!!!! Bleh!). Are you
even aware that the this "ratio" is a bogus measure since the time
complexity function is sub-exponential?

Do yourself a favor. Go learn about this subject.

Do the rest of us a favor. Go away until you have something intelligent
to say.
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Old 2012-04-17, 15:06   #3
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Welcome back Mr Silverman! Please turn on your joke detector, related to the "golden ratio" part. I am sure that anyone except yourself got the joke.

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Are you actually claiming that you did the C185 by GNFS????
Yes, I do! I am claiming that I did the C185 by GGNFS using yafu and ggnfs binaries. I had the poly from fivemack and sieved the rational side with -siever 14, as per bsqured advice, and I can make available all the relations and log files to who is interested. The history, at least partial, is on the yafu thread and on the link supplied in the former post.

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Do yourself a favor. Go learn about this subject.
I try, but you somehow overestimate my capabilities. :P For the time being I would limit meself to addition and nodular subtraction (not a typo).

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Do you mean forever? :P According with your standards, that could be so, that is why I can't do that. Ye better keep yer promise and put me in that (in)famous ignore list of yers... I'm a bugger, ye can't get rid of me so easy..

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Old 2012-04-17, 15:14   #4
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Yes, I do! I am claiming that I did the C185 by GGNFS using yafu and ggnfs binaries.
He didn't ask GGNFS -- he asked GNFS. And you certainly didn't do GNFS, you did an SNFS.
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Old 2012-04-17, 15:18   #5
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He didn't ask GGNFS -- he asked GNFS. And you certainly didn't do GNFS, you did an SNFS.
Well then to be fair, RDS misinterpreted him first... as did I.
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Old 2012-04-17, 15:29   #6
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Well then to be fair, RDS misinterpreted him first... as did I.
Yes and no. When talking about SNFS numbers, the size of the actual composite is irrelevant, only the size of the "special number" for which you constructed the poly is relevant [in this case, I take it that that is a S219] So comparing the efforts for C204, C155 and C185 naturally leads one to assume that the C185 was done by GNFS (since the other two were GNFS efforts).

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Old 2012-04-17, 15:48   #7
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He didn't ask GGNFS -- he asked GNFS. And you certainly didn't do GNFS, you did an SNFS.
Like always, a pleasure when you step in! Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I did as I explained, and I never claimed I understand this stuff. If you say it is SNFS, well, I really believe you. My knowledge frontier is a tick wall just behind SIQS (and in front of NFS) as I repeatedly claimed here around. Everyone according with his own capabilities . No need to argue about...
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Old 2012-04-17, 16:49   #8
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Like always, a pleasure when you step in! Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I did as I explained, and I never claimed I understand this stuff.
Then why do you prattle about subjects that you acknowledge that you
don't understand? Ignorance does not make one a fool. I am
ignorant about almost everything. But I do not discuss things that I know
I do not understand.

What makes one a fool is being unwilling to correct one's ignorance
combined with continuing to discuss the subject while ignorant.
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Old 2012-04-17, 17:25   #9
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Who's the f'king mod who has split the thread? Out of the original context (where, remember, I was starting by asking, not necessary for me, but for everybody who reads!) this thread really looks like RDS says, and I really look like an idiot...

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Old 2012-04-17, 17:29   #10
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I regret that you look like an idiot because, in this case, you have done what RDS is accusing you of.

The difference between SNFS and GNFS is really not a subtle one; akruppa and I are unlikely to be throwing CPU-decades and CPU-centuries around in a conversation about a task equivalent to something that you've done on one computer in the last few months. The response to being called on it is 'oops, my bad' and to moderate your writing style to something less aggressive in the future.
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Old 2012-04-17, 17:39   #11
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I was only trying to help, by eventually offering my hardware resources for the linear algebra phase. The question was trying to clarify if I have the resources or I am only dreaming (not I personally, but generally speaking). The (additional) joke was just a joke. The one which was aggressive, uncalled for, and attack to person (not to idea) was not my post. Beside of making fun around, some of us know more then they let to be seen.

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