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Old 2018-09-26, 22:16   #1
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Default When is it legal to torrent BBC tv stuff?

I know British people who pay the tax can legally torrent BBC stuff, but what if it's on cable?

Did they possibly nationalise the use of the BBC client when I wasn't looking? (I just thought fo that, I'll google it)

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Old 2018-09-26, 22:24   #2
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This is what I find infuriating about the internet. So much stuff is written like a damn book.

Don't put "not available" when you can supply people a link to stuff. I know I can Google for stuff myself, but when a page is seen by thousands of people maybe consider following the Golden Rule and do some legwork.
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Old 2018-09-27, 01:36   #3
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Just to clarify, I've been told that if you pay the BBC tax, it's legal to torrent BBC stuff with a British VPN. Or, more specifically, you use the VPN to access a British IP.

I'm assuming that having access to cable-based BBC is different, but it pays to ask.

Also, we don't have BBC on cable at the moment, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Doctor Who when it becomes available.

Oh, and maybe I'll accidentally start a fight with this, not intending to...But...

It's okay for Doctor Who to be trans-gender because (1) It's an alien,(2) It's fictional, and (3) Doctor Who is just entertainment, they're not trying to change the world.

It's like watching violent action movies, people aren't going to go out and murder just because they saw it in a movie. If people see this as a justification for the trans-gender lifestyle, they got the idea from elsewhere.
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[...]Oh, and maybe I'll accidentally start a fight with this, not intending to...But... [...]
Your comments show profound ignorance and intolerance about transgender people, Jason, but it's indeed not appropriate to start a fight either in your thread about the BBC or indeed here in the Lounge. Perhaps a soap box thread or a Science & Technology thread is in order for this subject, especially now that we've recently entered an era when we know a lot more about gender than we used to.
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Who cares, if you want to do it then do it.
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Old 2018-09-27, 11:56   #6
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I doubt it is ever legal to torrent tv series. If you are worried, it is probably much better to use VPN to stream from BBC directly, I think that is a gray zone area legally, not sure if you can be charged with anything.

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Old 2018-09-27, 17:02   #7
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I doubt it is ever legal to torrent tv series. If you are worried, it is probably much better to use VPN to stream from BBC directly, I think that is a gray zone area legally, not sure if you can be charged with anything.
On the contrary, it is entirely legal, AFAIK, if you have permission from the copyright owner.

All jasong has to do is gain assent from the BBC, or the relevant copyright owner.

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Your comments show profound ignorance and intolerance about transgender people, Jason, but it's indeed not appropriate to start a fight either in your thread about the BBC or indeed here in the Lounge. Perhaps a soap box thread or a Science & Technology thread is in order for this subject, especially now that we've recently entered an era when we know a lot more about gender than we used to.
Um, actually, the human race has become more foolish, not more wise.

As it says in the Bible,"In the last days, men shall scurry to and fro quickly, and knowledge shall increase. Yet men shall become ever more foolish."
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On the contrary, it is entirely legal, AFAIK, if you have permission from the copyright owner.

All jasong has to do is gain assent from the BBC, or the relevant copyright owner.

Yes, if one pays the BBC tax, which is part of being a British citizen, than it is legal to torrent to and from IPs that are in the British territories.

The problem arises when one wants to stay within the law, but torrent from outside British territories. That's when the questions arise.

Also, there's the edge-case where I might be visiting Britain(I'm not) and decide to torrent BBC stuff. Definitely illegal, but probably near zero odds of suffering for it, especially if I'm only torrenting with other people.
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Your comments show profound ignorance and intolerance about transgender people, Jason, but it's indeed not appropriate to start a fight either in your thread about the BBC or indeed here in the Lounge. Perhaps a soap box thread or a Science & Technology thread is in order for this subject, especially now that we've recently entered an era when we know a lot more about gender than we used to.
The problem ulimately, isn't homosexuality, trans-gender stuff, abortion or pretty much anything else. The problem is rejection of Jesus Christ.

If we can't agree on Jesus, than there's almost no point debating these things.

I had a friend, about 20 years ago, who put it very well. If you assume Jesus ISN'T Lord, than liberalism makes tremendously more sense.(American liberalism, which is apparently, the near opposite of European liberalism)

I'm sure you'll be much happier after all the Christians are Raptured and you can dip yourself in poop as much as you want.
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As it says in the Bible,"In the last days, men shall scurry to and fro quickly, and knowledge shall increase. Yet men shall become ever more foolish."
Who ever told you that is lying, or you are lying.
Here is the quote in a couple of dozen versions, none have the last sentence.
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Originally Posted by Daniel 12:4
(ASV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(Bishops) But thou O Daniel shut vp the wordes, and seale the booke till the time of the ende: many shall go about here and there, and knowledge shalbe encreased.
(Brenton) And thou, Daniel, close the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; until many are taught, and knowledge is increased.
(CEV) Daniel, I now command you to keep the message of this book secret until the end of time, even though many people will go everywhere, searching for the knowledge to be found in it.
(Darby) And thou, Daniel, close the words, and seal the book, till the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(DRB) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time appointed: many shall pass over, and knowledge shall be manifold.
(ERV) "But you, Daniel, keep this message a secret. You must close the book and keep this secret until the time of the end. Many people will go here and there looking for true knowledge, and the true knowledge will increase."
(ESV) But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.โ€
(Geneva) But thou, O Daniel, shut vp the words, and seale the boke til the end of the time: many shal run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(GW) "But you, Daniel, keep these words secret, and seal the book until the end times. Many will travel everywhere, and knowledge will grow."
(Hebrew OT+) ื•ืืชื”H859 ื“ื ื™ืืœH1840 ืกืชืH5640 ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ืH1697 ื•ื—ืชืH2856 ื”ืกืคืจH5612 ืขื“H5704 ืขืชH6256 ืงืฅH7093 ื™ืฉืื˜ื˜ื•H7751 ืจื‘ื™ืH7227 ื•ืชืจื‘ื”H7235 ื”ื“ืขืชืƒH1847
(ISV) Now as for you, Daniel, roll up your scroll and seal your words until the time of the end. Many will rush around while knowledge increases.'"
(JPS) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'
(JUB) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end: many shall pass by, and knowledge shall be multiplied.
(KJV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(LBLA) Pero tรบ, Daniel, guarda en secreto estas palabras y sella el libro hasta el tiempo del fin. Muchos correrรกn de aquรญ para allรก, y el conocimiento aumentarรก.
(LEB) But you, Daniel, keep the words secret and seal the scroll until the time of the end; many will run back and forth and knowledge will increase."
(LITV) But you, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, to the end time. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(MKJV) But you, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(RV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(SRV) Tรบ empero Daniel, cierra las palabras y sella el libro hasta el tiempo del fin: pasarรกn muchos, y multiplicarรกse la ciencia.
(SSE) Tรบ, pues, Daniel, cierra las palabras y sella el libro hasta el tiempo del fin; pasarรกn muchos, y se multiplicarรก la ciencia.
(TLV) But you, Daniel, close up the words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will run back and forth and knowledge will increase.โ€™
(TS2009) โ€œBut you, Daniโ€™ฤ›l, hide the words, and seal the book until the time of the end.a Many shall diligently search and knowledge shall increase.โ€
(Vulgate) tu autem Danihel clude sermones et signa librum usque ad tempus statutum pertransibunt plurimi et multiplex erit scientia
(WEB) But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many will run back and forth, and knowledge will be increased.โ€
(WEBA) But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many will run back and forth, and knowledge will be increased.โ€
(Webster) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(YLT) And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'
And verse 5 has nothing that is remotely like the part that you supplied.
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