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#1 |
Dec 2011
After milion nines:)
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One group of people say result is 16 another group answer is 1
Since I presume this task can only have one correct answer , what that answer will be? |
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#2 |
"Oliver"
Sep 2017
Porta Westfalica, DE
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It can have either of your solutions depending on your choice of operator precedences. (Even more if you allow more peculiar definitions.) I personally would give an implicit multiplication a higher precedence than an explicit one, since the bracket expression is visually grouped with the prefactor. But I never saw that formalised, since it is usually only a shorthand - and in this case they would be of equal precedence. Having said that, if somebody writes an expression like this, it is definitely misleading, maybe deliberately.
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#3 |
Jun 2003
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Wrong. The expression is ambiguous. Hence there can be more than one answer depending on how you interpret.
The ambiguity is due to two incompatible notation styles being used together. Here, the multiplication operator is implicit, but the division operator is explicit. Due to this, we could reasonably interpret as meaning 8 / 2 * (2+2) or Code:
8 ------ 2(2+2) |
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#4 |
"Serge"
Mar 2008
Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2
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Welcome to the world of semantics!
It is the same as (it sounds better in Russian) a some king's ruling that was passed down to minions: "behead not pardon" Imagine the confusion of the "project managers" of that time. |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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Mathematics is way too old and too perfect for such ambiguity:
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or just use Pari-gp, it will give you only the correct answer. ![]() Of course you an always rely on Wikipedia to corrupt a beautiful science to nonsense. Democratic sciences anyone? Quote:
Last fiddled with by a1call on 2021-09-28 at 20:45 |
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#6 | |
Feb 2017
Nowhere
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In the error message, the ^ appeared directly under the (. I tried to put it there by inserting - characters, but YMMV. Code:
? 8/2(2+2) *** unused characters: 8/2(2+2) --------------------------------------^----- ? |
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#7 |
"Jacob"
Sep 2006
Brussels, Belgium
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IMHO the rule that implicit multiplication should have a higher priority is nonsense : if the sign for a multiplication operation can be omitted, there is still a multiplication to do. Why treat it differently from a multiplication which does use a sign ?
The left to right convention is simple and unambiguous. |
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#8 |
"Oliver"
Sep 2017
Porta Westfalica, DE
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Let's take the example of a1call:
Why should someone interpret 1 ÷ 2n as (1 ÷ 2)n i.e. half n? This is really counterintuitive. Giving the implicit operator precedence is also unambiguous, maybe even simpler and definitely self-evident. Edit: Why should we treat something that is written differently inevitably the same? Math is not a conversational language which may have ambiguities etc., math should be well defined and having multiple ways to express the exact same thing is not helpful. Last fiddled with by kruoli on 2021-09-29 at 10:13 Reason: Additions. |
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#9 |
"刀-比-日"
May 2018
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The answer could also be {8} for a finite set containing one element in the range 8 ÷ 8 from 8 to 8.
"In Italy, Poland and Russia, this notation is sometimes used in engineering to denote a range of values." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelus |
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#10 |
Feb 2017
Nowhere
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This is a case where punctuation really would be a matter of life and death! "Behead, not pardon" and "Behead not, pardon" have opposite meanings.
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#11 |
Dec 2011
After milion nines:)
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I am very disappointed. I expected the math to be a little better defined after all :)
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