Upgrade and XP now crashes!!!!

johnymccarthy · 2002-09-17, 20:41

I have upgraded to an Athlon 1900 and XP from Millenium.

Now, after between 2 & 10 minutes from program start the computer freezes, the only way to proceed is the reset button. (everything works fine until Prime95 runs, I have tried 21 and 22)

The 'Results.txt' does not have an entry for the event.

I assume that some sort of conflict is causing my problem.

Can anyone help please.

Regards

John

outlnder · 2002-09-17, 23:13

I also had a similar problem with XP. Instead of fighting it, I went back to 2K.

Good luck with your system.

Lord_Humungous · 2002-09-17, 23:31

Just a shot in the dark, but what hardware were you running before the upgrade?

Some motherboards don't play nice with AthlonXP's. I had to flash my bios a couple of times and tweak some bios settings before my system was stable after I upgraded from a 1.333 T-Bird.

johnymccarthy · 2002-09-18, 00:00

Thanks for the suggestions

If going back to 2K is as easy as the move to XP then I am running out of time!!!!!!

My previous MB was Asus K7V, 800 Athlon, Millenium, 256 SDRAM.
I changed the MB for an Elite K7S5A, 1900 Athlon, the same SDRAM and kept all other hardware.
When first starting the system with XP I installed drivers for my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse etc. and then prime95.22.8. from the internet.
It crashed within 2 minutes.

I have since tried the burn test and it also crashes my system!!!!!!

Is XP able to give me a report of an error causing the crash?

Regards

John

Lord_Humungous · 2002-09-18, 00:29

What bios revision are you running? It looks ECS had their bios updated to work with the AthlonXP's since January-February of this year....

http://www.ecsusa.com/ecsusa/www.ecs...load/k7s5a.htm

I don't know much about WinXP, but in Win2K if you right-click on 'My Computer' then click manage - or go to the control panel under "Administrative tools' there's an event viewer which can be really cryptic but sometimes gives useful info on what crashed your system.

How does your system run without Prime95? Does it ever crash? Do you do any heavy duty gaming? What wattage power supply are you using? How hot is your CPU running?

With that many components being upgraded at once there could be a lot of things causing you problems.....

johnymccarthy · 2002-09-18, 01:07

Thank's Lord,

You have given me a direction to look further.

My system runs great without Prime95, I am going to look into Admin tool's and try to understand!!!!!.

My CPU temp is OK

My power supply is 400 Watt

No Gaming, I wish I had time to play games.

Regards

John

Lord_Humungous · 2002-09-18, 01:17

Hope you get it fixed. :)

BTW, I asked about gaming as it's another way to stress test your system. When I was having problems after my CPU upgrade, my system would seem to be stable until I started to really beat on it either with the Prime torture test, or an extended gaming session. Then it would freeze or reboot all on its own.

Right now my system is doing odd things like locking up or re-booting due to an IBM HD that is slowly eating itself. Win2K's Event Viewer\System Log had this to say:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Ntfs
Event Category: Disk
Event ID: 55
Date: 9/16/2002
Time: 9:22:38 AM
User: N/A
Computer: *******
Description:
The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the volume C:.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 4e 00 ......N.
0008: 02 00 00 00 37 00 04 c0 ....7..À
0010: 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 c0 ....2..À
0018: 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

johnymccarthy · 2002-09-18, 01:34

mmmmm

I do have a new 60G IBM hard drive

John

Lord_Humungous · 2002-09-18, 01:40

HAAAHAHHAAAA!!

I've killed LOTS of those! And that's the model(60GXP) that is currently dying in my system right now. :)

It sounds like your system gets flakey when the CPU usage ramps up though, so the HD probably isn't the culprit. Probably.

I've since gone to buying maxtor drives and just tossing the IBM drives when they die. Only two more to go! Well, one and a half considering the state this drive is in.........

Prime95 · 2002-09-18, 03:24

Keep your fingers crossed, the master database is on IBM drives. 40GB raid 1. Of course its backup weekly to avoid severe loss.

daWabbit · 2002-09-18, 08:16

I just added a more capable heat sink/fan assembly to a T-Bird for a pal of mine. His XP system ran fine until he added Seti@Home, whereupon it got unstable. Seems the continuous workload got the cpu too hot. I measured temperatures at the side of the socket (using a Klein multimeter with a pyrometer probe) at nearly 60 degrees C. Bios reported an indentical temperature. The new sink and fan enabled the cpu to run well at the increased workload with a bios reported temperature of 47 degrees C. Pyrometer reported 44C. Just a thought.
Jack

2002-09-17, 20:41	#1
johnymccarthy Sep 2002 1110₂ Posts	Upgrade and XP now crashes!!!! I have upgraded to an Athlon 1900 and XP from Millenium. Now, after between 2 & 10 minutes from program start the computer freezes, the only way to proceed is the reset button. (everything works fine until Prime95 runs, I have tried 21 and 22) The 'Results.txt' does not have an entry for the event. I assume that some sort of conflict is causing my problem. Can anyone help please. Regards John

2002-09-18, 08:16	#11
daWabbit Aug 2002 1000₂ Posts	Could it be heat? I just added a more capable heat sink/fan assembly to a T-Bird for a pal of mine. His XP system ran fine until he added Seti@Home, whereupon it got unstable. Seems the continuous workload got the cpu too hot. I measured temperatures at the side of the socket (using a Klein multimeter with a pyrometer probe) at nearly 60 degrees C. Bios reported an indentical temperature. The new sink and fan enabled the cpu to run well at the increased workload with a bios reported temperature of 47 degrees C. Pyrometer reported 44C. Just a thought. Jack

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2002-09-17, 23:13	#2
outlnder Aug 2002 2×3×53 Posts	I also had a similar problem with XP. Instead of fighting it, I went back to 2K. Good luck with your system.

2002-09-17, 23:31	#3
Lord_Humungous Aug 2002 23 Posts	Just a shot in the dark, but what hardware were you running before the upgrade? Some motherboards don't play nice with AthlonXP's. I had to flash my bios a couple of times and tweak some bios settings before my system was stable after I upgraded from a 1.333 T-Bird.

2002-09-18, 00:00	#4
johnymccarthy Sep 2002 2·7 Posts	Thanks for the suggestions If going back to 2K is as easy as the move to XP then I am running out of time!!!!!! My previous MB was Asus K7V, 800 Athlon, Millenium, 256 SDRAM. I changed the MB for an Elite K7S5A, 1900 Athlon, the same SDRAM and kept all other hardware. When first starting the system with XP I installed drivers for my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse etc. and then prime95.22.8. from the internet. It crashed within 2 minutes. I have since tried the burn test and it also crashes my system!!!!!! Is XP able to give me a report of an error causing the crash? Regards John

2002-09-18, 00:29	#5
Lord_Humungous Aug 2002 17₁₆ Posts	What bios revision are you running? It looks ECS had their bios updated to work with the AthlonXP's since January-February of this year.... http://www.ecsusa.com/ecsusa/www.ecs...load/k7s5a.htm I don't know much about WinXP, but in Win2K if you right-click on 'My Computer' then click manage - or go to the control panel under "Administrative tools' there's an event viewer which can be really cryptic but sometimes gives useful info on what crashed your system. How does your system run without Prime95? Does it ever crash? Do you do any heavy duty gaming? What wattage power supply are you using? How hot is your CPU running? With that many components being upgraded at once there could be a lot of things causing you problems.....

2002-09-18, 01:07	#6
johnymccarthy Sep 2002 2·7 Posts	Thank's Lord, You have given me a direction to look further. My system runs great without Prime95, I am going to look into Admin tool's and try to understand!!!!!. My CPU temp is OK My power supply is 400 Watt No Gaming, I wish I had time to play games. Regards John

2002-09-18, 01:17	#7
Lord_Humungous Aug 2002 23 Posts	Hope you get it fixed. :) BTW, I asked about gaming as it's another way to stress test your system. When I was having problems after my CPU upgrade, my system would seem to be stable until I started to really beat on it either with the Prime torture test, or an extended gaming session. Then it would freeze or reboot all on its own. Right now my system is doing odd things like locking up or re-booting due to an IBM HD that is slowly eating itself. Win2K's Event Viewer\System Log had this to say: Event Type: Error Event Source: Ntfs Event Category: Disk Event ID: 55 Date: 9/16/2002 Time: 9:22:38 AM User: N/A Computer: ******* Description: The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the volume C:. Data: 0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 4e 00 ......N. 0008: 02 00 00 00 37 00 04 c0 ....7..À 0010: 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 c0 ....2..À 0018: 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

2002-09-18, 01:34	#8
johnymccarthy Sep 2002 2×7 Posts	mmmmm I do have a new 60G IBM hard drive John

2002-09-18, 01:40	#9
Lord_Humungous Aug 2002 23 Posts	HAAAHAHHAAAA!! I've killed LOTS of those! And that's the model(60GXP) that is currently dying in my system right now. :) It sounds like your system gets flakey when the CPU usage ramps up though, so the HD probably isn't the culprit. Probably. I've since gone to buying maxtor drives and just tossing the IBM drives when they die. Only two more to go! Well, one and a half considering the state this drive is in.........

2002-09-18, 03:24	#10
Prime95 P90 years forever! Aug 2002 Yeehaw, FL 2³·1,019 Posts	Keep your fingers crossed, the master database is on IBM drives. 40GB raid 1. Of course its backup weekly to avoid severe loss.