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Old 2021-05-09, 23:08   #23
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cough*putin*cough

Then again "There are always consequences"
Similar theme in the episode Je Souhaite of The X-files.

The Fisherman and His Wife by the Brothers Grimm deals with wishes for ever-greater power.
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Old 2022-03-18, 12:55   #24
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Conservatives in the US supporting Russia believe in the "free and fair elections" that have kept Putin in power. They are attracted to his vision of "free speech" and "freedom of the press". Unfortunately one could argue that at least two members of SCOTUS fall into that camp. Those who are "middle of the road" politically should be very afraid of such conservatives.
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Old 2022-03-18, 13:25   #25
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Conservatives in the US supporting Russia believe in the "free and fair elections" that have kept Putin in power. They are attracted to his vision of "free speech" and "freedom of the press".
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Such usages of "conservative" - and they are ubiquitous - are IMO Orwellian doublethink. These folks aren't "conservative" in any traditional sense of the term. They are authoritarian subversives. Worse than the Copperheads during our Civil War.
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Old 2022-07-10, 16:07   #26
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An unbelievable amount of people on the great hole, a.k.a. Facebook, believe Trumpf is still the greatest thing ever, even after all he has done. I do not understand that sort of thinking.
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Old 2022-07-11, 03:23   #27
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An unbelievable amount of people on the great hole, a.k.a. Facebook, believe Trumpf is still the greatest thing ever, even after all he has done. I do not understand that sort of thinking.
"Thinking" is not an applicable term.

What we have here is a personality cult.

As with Stalin, Hitler, Kim Il Sung, Mao tse-Tung, et al, the cult figure s unworthy of the idolatry.

And pretending that "the institutions" of democracy are somehow a bulwark against tyranny, ignores the fact that institutions are no better than the people who occupy them.

My father was twice wounded in battle fighting against soldiers who had sworn loyalty to a person (der Fรผhrer) rather than to the institutions of government.

I am glad for his sake that he was spared having to see the country he fought for commit suicide in 2016, and the sequela.
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Old 2022-07-11, 09:45   #28
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My father was twice wounded in battle fighting against soldiers who had sworn loyalty to a person (der Fรผhrer) rather than to the institutions of government.
The UK forces swear loyaly to the Monarch, not the government. An important protection against a government which is too extreme.
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Old 2022-07-11, 17:34   #29
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"Thinking" is not an applicable term.

What we have here is a personality cult.
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Qadaffi, Ferdinand Marcos, Manuel Noriega, Fidel Castro, and Edie Amin. Be loyal or be dead...
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and Edie Idi Amin. Be loyal or be dead...
I think some Asian figures are missing from the list, such as Mao, Pol Pot, Chiang Kai-Shek.
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I think some Asian figures are missing from the list, such as Mao, Pol Pot, Chiang Kai-Shek.
Actually, I found two different spellings for Amin. Edi and Edie.

I thought about adding Ho Chi Minh, but all his people considered him a family member. "Uncle Ho."

Vladimir Putin definitely belongs and so does Kim Jung-Un. Maybe Bashara al-Assad.
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Actually, I found two different spellings for Amin. Edi and Edie.
I've never seen either of those applied to him that I recall. When in doubt I lean toward what wikipedia uses, which is Idi in this case. Edie is a homophone, a substitute for Edith, typically a female's name.
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I thought about adding Ho Chi Minh, but all his people considered him a family member. "Uncle Ho."
I did too, but the Viet Minh civilian killings were about matched by the French there and while he was out of the country (going again by wikipedia).
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Vladimir Putin definitely belongs and so does Kim Jung-Un. Maybe Bashar al-Assad.
Definitely. Making a complete list would be a dismal task and a moving target. Some other possibilities are implied here. (Links added to quotes above for readers' convenience)

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I did too, but the Viet Minh civilian killings were about matched by the French there and while he was out of the country (going again by wikipedia).
I've seen photos of Ho Chi Minh in Europe pre WWII. Paris, I believe. He had hair back then.
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