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 2020-05-20, 13:12 #1 tServo     "Marv" May 2009 near the Tannhäuser Gate 24×3×13 Posts Windows running Linux Cuda ? Later this month, Micro$oft will be releasing WSL 2.0 for Windoze 10 which has a completely updated architecture. It will add a full Linux kernel ( of your choice ) to Windoze. In the coming months, an update to Windows 10 after this will allow this Linux kernel to directly run GUI apps without X11 forwarding. Although not explicitly stated, this should ( possibly, maybe, fingers crossed ) allow Cuda to run under this Linux kernel. This would simplify development for programmers. An article from TheVerge: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/19/2...n-wsl-features 2020-05-20, 15:41 #2 chalsall If I May "Chris Halsall" Sep 2002 Barbados 253516 Posts Quote:  Originally Posted by tServo Later this month, Micro$oft will be releasing WSL 2.0 for Windoze 10 which has a completely updated architecture.
I have to admit I'm enjoying "making friends" with Wincrows 10.

With an SSH server enable and Powershell, you can actually get quite a bit done remotely -- even while the user is logged in and working.

I'm currently working on getting Perl to compile into a Windoze executable. Then, all kinds of interesting things can be done...

2020-05-20, 16:07   #3
xilman
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by chalsall I'm currently working on getting Perl to compile into a Windoze executable. Then, all kinds of interesting things can be done...
There's doubtless a good reason for going to that trouble but I haven't yet worked out why.

Is the native Perl port to Windoze not sufficient for your purposes?

2020-05-20, 16:35   #4
chalsall
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by xilman There's doubtless a good reason for going to that trouble but I haven't yet worked out why. Is the native Perl port to Windoze not sufficient for your purposes?
Perl is my "comfort zone". It's where I prototype most things, and then move them to C / C++ if speed is an issue.

And yes, I'm developing and test deploying using Strawberry Perl. But for beta-testing and full deployment, I don't want to have the users have to install anything beyond my own app.

2020-05-20, 17:25   #5
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 Originally Posted by chalsall I don't want to have the users have to install anything beyond my own app.
Ah, OK, that's the bit I hadn't understood.

Most everything I write these days is in Perl, with a slight contamination of SQL.

On the rare occasions here I need performance, PDL generally comes to the rescue.

Last fiddled with by xilman on 2020-05-20 at 17:26 Reason: Fix tyops

2020-05-20, 17:48   #6
kriesel

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by xilman On the rare occasions here I need performance, PDL generally comes to the rescue.
Which PDL would that be? https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/PDL ;)

 2020-05-20, 18:04 #7 M344587487     "Composite as Heck" Oct 2017 78910 Posts It gets stranger than that: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/direc...x-heart-linux/ And like most of the comments on this reddit thread state, that sounds very much like phase 2 of EEE: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...subsystem_for/
2020-05-20, 18:32   #8
kriesel

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by M344587487 It gets stranger than that
Watching MS over the decades is like watching the borg after they assimilated some Ferengi.
Clean house ruthlessly and regularly of your own perceived less productive employees. It keeps them all on their toes.
Promise anything to get or keep a customer or make others' customers hesitate.
Hire away competitors' key people.
Threaten creation of competing products. (Citrix share price dropped briefly by 80% when Windows Terminal Server was announced.)
Acquire competitors after the previous reduces their market value.
Market share is everything. A million licenses at $40 (PC-DOS 1.1) is more profit than 100,000 licenses at$200 each (CPM/86) or 10,000 licenses at \$1000 each (UCSD P-system, 1982 prices).
What you can't acquire, coopt or assimilate. (Linux is increasingly less a reason to leave Windows.)

Not exactly the rules of acquisition, but seems related. http://www.sjtrek.com/trek/rules/

2020-05-20, 18:34   #9
chalsall
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by kriesel Linux is increasingly less a reason to leave Windows.
Perhaps on the desktop, but not "in the cloud". That's where the fun stuff happens...

2020-05-20, 18:45   #10
kriesel

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by tServo An article from TheVerge: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/19/2...n-wsl-features
Current WSL in my limited experience does a remarkable job of hiding the WSL files from the Windows side and vice versa. I remember creating a special named file via the linux side and then using explorer file search to find it on the Windows side. There were also some oddities that only one could read what the other wrote, but not the other way around, in the same folder. I think that linux was blind to Windows-originated files in the same folder; invisible to ls -l. It's been a while. https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/8/21...ation-features

2020-05-20, 18:54   #11
kriesel

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by chalsall Perhaps on the desktop, but not "in the cloud". That's where the fun stuff happens...
What I wrote was not so much a slam on linux or a statement of fact, as a statement of their marketing posture. To a lot of people, linux is perceived as not mainstream or easy to use. Decades of experience with one and not knowingly with the other has a lot to do with that. Most web servers, middleware, firewalls, etc. are linux. Most cell phones. Most consumers don't know or care that directly or indirectly they use linux a lot.

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