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 2021-02-21, 16:49 #1 tServo     "Marv" May 2009 near the Tannhäuser Gate 24×3×13 Posts Schadenfreude I have recently received several emails asking for donations for Texas. I remember the Arab oil embargo in 1973. Since most of the North East residences and businesses and power plants were powered by crude oil then, it hit there very badly. I also remember that there was a bumper sticker particularly popular in Texas that read: "Drive 80. Freeze a Yankee" Suck it up Texas. Rick Perry sez Texans prefer blackouts to keep their independence from federal regulations. Also, the current gov. must be bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry to claim that renewables caused all the problems with the power grid. After listening to this nonsense for the last 50 years all I can say is: Revenge is a dish best served cold.
2021-02-21, 17:28   #2
Dr Sardonicus

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 Originally Posted by tServo I have recently received several emails asking for donations for Texas. I remember the Arab oil embargo in 1973. Since most of the North East residences and businesses and power plants were powered by crude oil then, it hit there very badly. I also remember that there was a bumper sticker particularly popular in Texas that read: "Drive 80. Freeze a Yankee"
Texas is already getting "donations" from taxpayers of all 50 States, thanks to President Biden signing a Major Disaster Declaration for a large part of Texas.

Yes, "LET THE YANKEES FREEZE IN THE DARK" was another Texas bumper sticker slogan during the Arab Oil Boycott. But apparently, the attitude of Texas politicians is, "Let my constituents freeze in the dark."
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 Suck it up Texas. Rick Perry sez Texans prefer blackouts to keep their independence from federal regulations.
Rick Perry is going to have to take a back seat to Tim Boyd, the (now former) Mayor of Colorado City, Texas who, in the face of questions from city residents of where they might be able to go to warm up, or where they might be able to get drinking water, posted a defining instance of depraved indifference to Facebook. (I have attached a screen shot.)
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 Also, the current gov. must be bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry to claim that renewables caused all the problems with the power grid. After listening to this nonsense for the last 50 years all I can say is: Revenge is a dish best served cold.
And I can think of 150 million reasons Governor Abbott might not want to criticize the fossil fuel industry in Texas. According the this recent AP story,
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 Oil and gas built and enriched Texas, and with that its politicians, including those who became president. But none has reaped campaign contributions on the scale of Abbott, who in six years in office has raised more than $150 million from donors, more than any governor in U.S. history. Attached Thumbnails 2021-02-21, 18:32 #3 Uncwilly 6809 > 6502 """"""""""""""""""" Aug 2003 101×103 Posts 19·499 Posts Ocasio-Cortez Fundraising Drive For Texas Relief Raises$4 Million
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 "When disaster strikes, this is not just an issue for Texans; this is an issue for our entire country," Ocasio-Cortez told reporters. "And our whole country needs to come and rally together behind the needs of Texans all across this state." She added: "That's the New York spirit, that's the Texas spirit, and that's the American spirit."

 2021-02-21, 19:24 #4 rogue     "Mark" Apr 2003 Between here and the 3×7×13×23 Posts I wonder if Ted Cruz is doing anything to help...
2021-02-21, 21:20   #5
Dr Sardonicus

Feb 2017
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 Originally Posted by rogue I wonder if Ted Cruz is doing anything to help...
At this point Senator Cruz could probably help the most by keeping his mouth shut and lying low. Or perhaps he could try to drum up some donations.

After Texas voted for #45 in the 2020 election, Governor Abbott filed a frivolous case at the US Supreme Court to try to nullify the election results in several other States, and Ted Cruz objected to the electoral vote totals even after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol Building, I'm sure #45 will be offering to donate plenty of money to Texas any time now.

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2021-02-22, 00:55   #6
tServo

"Marv"
May 2009
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 Originally Posted by rogue I wonder if Ted Cruz is doing anything to help...
His response was to throw his 2 daughters under the bus.
Oh, wait. That was his reason for leaving Texas.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-ne...-under-the-bus

2021-02-22, 01:02   #7
tServo

"Marv"
May 2009
near the Tannhäuser Gate

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 Originally Posted by Uncwilly Ocasio-Cortez Fundraising Drive For Texas Relief Raises \$4 Million
I'm sure AOC is a better, more compassionate person than I. Kudos to her for that.
But perhaps my better angels have withered by having to listen to the facist, racist, misogynistic, greedy crap coming from that state for 45 more years than her.

2021-02-22, 13:52   #8
rogue

"Mark"
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Between here and the

3×7×13×23 Posts

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 Originally Posted by tServo I'm sure AOC is a better, more compassionate person than I. Kudos to her for that. But perhaps my better angels have withered by having to listen to the facist, racist, misogynistic, greedy crap coming from that state for 45 more years than her.
Fox News and the Republicans have made it clear that socialism is evil and the socialist policies (green energy) are the reason for the catastrophe. The problems would go away if people stopped asking for handouts from government.

I actually find it ironic how much Texas has been like North Korea during this with lack of food, potable water, rolling blackouts, etc. The leadership is blaming everyone but themselves. The only thing Texas is lacking is firing squads for the incompetence that led to these problems, although I sure that there are a few that have been wanting to do just that. Republicans from other states want firing squads to kill Democrats, but I digress.

 2021-02-22, 15:05 #9 Dr Sardonicus     Feb 2017 Nowhere 10001011010012 Posts I am reminded of a long-ago next door neighbor of mine who had come from Texas. Not a bad guy by any stretch, and if there were a Sweetest Gal on God's Green Earth contest his wife would have been in the running, but he had this "Texas attitude." I will illustrate with an anecdote. He and his wife traveled a lot, and had a neighbor across the street watch their house and collect the mail. One time, around the beginning of summer, while they were traveling, I was mowing out back, and noticed standing water on the ground. It was at the bottom of a large hill, and we'd had a lot of rain recently, so I didn't think about it much. But after two weeks without any rain I was mowing again, and there was still standing water there. This was not groundwater! I broke some mosquito dunks and threw them into the swampy area, and investigated. Up the hill was my neighbor's house. In his back yard I found a spot where water was gushing out of the ground. Obviously, a line of his sprinkling system had breached. So I told the neighbor who was watching the place and had a key (and had had no reason to go into the back yard), and he found the control valve and shut it off. The water stopped flowing. The swamp disappeared within a couple of days. When the couple returned, I told the guy his sprinkling system was broken and had been gushing water, and had been shut off, and that he was gong to have a really high water bill. He refused to believe what I was telling him. "Oh, no, that's just runoff from further up the hill." I was not happy about this - he was as good as calling me a liar - but by a supreme effort, I refrained from saying another word. I knew I was telling the truth. I may have shrugged my shoulders. A couple of days later, his wife was down by the road working in the garden, and wanted to talk. She said Utilities had called them out of concern they had a broken pipe, because their water use was so high. Their water bill was three hundred and forty-five dollars! I reckoned he believed me then...
 2021-02-22, 15:45 #10 kriesel     "TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17" Mar 2017 US midwest 2×13×193 Posts That sort of "thinking" is not limited to Texas. People sometimes get stuck on ideas and resist additional evidence the belief does not fit reality. I knew someone in western Wisconsin who had flooding frequently at his barn door, which was in a sort of low spot, but not the lowest, and adjacent gently sloped area downward. He recommended hiring someone with a subsoiler (a sort of deep reach plow) to break up the soil in the lowest spot so it would drain better, while in the process of selling the property to me. The issues had persisted for decades and seemed to be slowly worsening, but he had not addressed them. Not long after I bought the place, the house renter complained of low water pressure. It turns out the ancient steel well plumbing had an underground leak, the whole time. One of the smaller buildings had foundation damage, and there was a depression where soil had been eroded away underground by the pressurized flow. There was also old discarded piping and a worn out well pump lying around from years before, worn out years before its time. After a day of an expensive plumbing crew working, including backhoe, replacing the older steel sections with new plastic line, pressure restored, and all the soil soon dried off, no more flooding for over 15 years now. Utility bills went down when the well pump no longer ran continuously. Parts of the temporary trench for installing the new line were rather soupy during that installation. My first employer rented some storage space in Madison WI. The structure was multiple units, and the adjacent unit had a bad water break, such that our space was being flooded too. The landlord was unreachable for weeks, despite our persistent attempts, until surfacing when we withheld the rent until it was fixed. Texas coal & gas fueled generating capacity out: 30GW; wind generation out: 15GW https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...rk/6764764002/ (Wind/(coal+gas) out ratio 15/30=0.5) coal and gas constitute 64% of ERCOT's source mix; Wind 24% (2020 figures) https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...es/ar-BB1dK0to (wind/(coal&gas) 24/60 = 0.4) From these we see that a higher fraction of wind capacity was out of action from the cold, than of coal & gas. Last fiddled with by kriesel on 2021-02-22 at 16:05

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