New download page

wolfcrey · 2009-07-14, 15:34

Dear aliquot friends,

I created a new downloadpage. There you will find all the aliquot sequences I calculated during the last few years:

(1, 220000] -> C100
(220000, 10^6] -> C80

www.aliquot.de/tabellen/download.htm

Wolfgang Creyaufmüller

henryzz · 2009-07-14, 16:03

you posted the same thing three times so i deleted two of them
thanks for the link

mataje · 2009-07-14, 16:30

Great job. :surprised
Thanks.

Mini-Geek · 2009-07-14, 17:04

I've downloaded all the files and am currently converting all of them to .elf. What will I do once I've got 'em all? Haven't quite figured that out yet.

I definitely want all the data to get into Syd's DB eventually, but this is a lot for it to process. I'll have to be careful with what I do, or Syd's DB could be working on it for weeks.

Greebley · 2009-07-14, 17:32

I mentioned this in one of the other places, but I can upload them with aliqueit -s with a sleep between to not strain the db too much.

I can do either all or partial.

Edit: I have all the elf files, I have the batch file to submit them all so I will am going to let it run. I estimate they should be all in the db in about 13-24 hours given the sleep 5 between each and my guess at the average time to submit.

I will start it up, but keep an eye here in case this is a problem.

Mini-Geek · 2009-07-14, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greebley

I mentioned this in one of the other places, but I can upload them with aliqueit -s with a sleep between to not strain the db too much.

I can do either all or partial.

Edit: I have all the elf files, I have the batch file to submit them all so I will am going to let it run. I estimate they should be all in the db in about 13-24 hours given the sleep 5 between each and my guess at the average time to submit.

I will start it up, but keep an eye here in case this is a problem.

Is this time estimate for the entire 1-1e6 range or just a subset where Wolfgang is known to be ahead? I'd think it'd take much longer to process all 568 MB of files. (Are you accounting for what the DB already knows? That might shave a good bit of time off.)
Edit: Never mind, saw your other post saying it's 200k+. 281 MB. Still quite a chunk, and very few of them have statuses in the DB already.

henryzz · 2009-07-14, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greebley

I mentioned this in one of the other places, but I can upload them with aliqueit -s with a sleep between to not strain the db too much.

I can do either all or partial.

Edit: I have all the elf files, I have the batch file to submit them all so I will am going to let it run. I estimate they should be all in the db in about 13-24 hours given the sleep 5 between each and my guess at the average time to submit.

I will start it up, but keep an eye here in case this is a problem.

i would say dont do it all at once or have a bigger gap
just try one longish file and you will see it can take well over 30 seconds sometimes when running on its own
i would suggest a minimum of sleep 30 between sequences
to be on the safe side i would personally use sleep 60

Greebley · 2009-07-14, 19:19

True but aliqueit -s waits the full 30 seconds for it to finish so there is no overlap at all. That is how it reports the number of factors added and why using -s seems the best way to go. You are not putting anything queued up.

Edit:Only if someone else was submitting a large number of things do I think the 5 seconds not enough and I don't think that is the case? The DB does handle requests to view sequences while loading is ongoing so uploading doesn't block downloading or examining sequences.

kar_bon · 2009-07-14, 20:57

please be careful!

the issue is not the pause between the upload to the database, the problem is, that every factor has to be proven prime with only one worker (worker #4) so this will be the bottleneck.

an insertion with those primality test can take about 5 or 10 minutes for only one seq!

Mini-Geek · 2009-07-14, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kar_bon

please be careful!

the issue is not the pause between the upload to the database, the problem is, that every factor has to be proven prime with only one worker (worker #4) so this will be the bottleneck.

an insertion with those primality test can take about 5 or 10 minutes for only one seq!

aliqueit.exe's -s is like reporting from the Report factors page with "Insert in background" unchecked, not like uploading a file (which goes in background). The page that wget waits for doesn't get sent until the processing gets to the end, and the primality proofing always (barring something uncommon like a +200 digit primality proof from somewhere else) keeps up with the processing and so finishes momentarily after the processing does. This means that within a few seconds of aliqueit finishing, the DB has already finished doing everything with the sequence.
With the way it all works and the waiting between, I don't think there will be any problems.

Greebley · 2009-07-14, 23:47

Well if there is a noticable problem then post it here and I will put the 30 second pause in for the second half (I'll make it a full 10 seconds in any case). Past experience with multiple submits makes me think it shouldn't be a problem, though this is obviously a much larger submit (but will also take a lot longer time so the rate is the same).

2009-07-14, 15:34	#1
wolfcrey Jul 2009 Aachen, Germany 41 Posts	New download page Dear aliquot friends, I created a new downloadpage. There you will find all the aliquot sequences I calculated during the last few years: (1, 220000] -> C100 (220000, 10^6] -> C80 www.aliquot.de/tabellen/download.htm Wolfgang Creyaufmüller Last fiddled with by 10metreh on 2009-07-14 at 17:06

2009-07-14, 17:32	#5
Greebley May 2009 Dedham Massachusetts USA 1101001011₂ Posts	I mentioned this in one of the other places, but I can upload them with aliqueit -s with a sleep between to not strain the db too much. I can do either all or partial. Edit: I have all the elf files, I have the batch file to submit them all so I will am going to let it run. I estimate they should be all in the db in about 13-24 hours given the sleep 5 between each and my guess at the average time to submit. I will start it up, but keep an eye here in case this is a problem. Last fiddled with by Greebley on 2009-07-14 at 18:06

2009-07-14, 19:19	#8
Greebley May 2009 Dedham Massachusetts USA 34B₁₆ Posts	True but aliqueit -s waits the full 30 seconds for it to finish so there is no overlap at all. That is how it reports the number of factors added and why using -s seems the best way to go. You are not putting anything queued up. Edit:Only if someone else was submitting a large number of things do I think the 5 seconds not enough and I don't think that is the case? The DB does handle requests to view sequences while loading is ongoing so uploading doesn't block downloading or examining sequences. Last fiddled with by Greebley on 2009-07-14 at 19:22

2009-07-14, 23:47	#11
Greebley May 2009 Dedham Massachusetts USA 3×281 Posts	Well if there is a noticable problem then post it here and I will put the 30 second pause in for the second half (I'll make it a full 10 seconds in any case). Past experience with multiple submits makes me think it shouldn't be a problem, though this is obviously a much larger submit (but will also take a lot longer time so the rate is the same). Last fiddled with by Greebley on 2009-07-14 at 23:48

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2009-07-14, 16:03	#2
henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Cambridge (GMT/BST) 2×2,909 Posts	you posted the same thing three times so i deleted two of them thanks for the link

2009-07-14, 16:30	#3
mataje Jan 2009 Bilbao, Spain 283 Posts	Great job. :surprised Thanks.

2009-07-14, 17:04	#4
Mini-Geek Account Deleted "Tim Sorbera" Aug 2006 San Antonio, TX USA 10AB₁₆ Posts	I've downloaded all the files and am currently converting all of them to .elf. What will I do once I've got 'em all? Haven't quite figured that out yet. I definitely want all the data to get into Syd's DB eventually, but this is a lot for it to process. I'll have to be careful with what I do, or Syd's DB could be working on it for weeks.

2009-07-14, 20:57	#9
kar_bon Mar 2006 Germany 2·1,439 Posts	please be careful! the issue is not the pause between the upload to the database, the problem is, that every factor has to be proven prime with only one worker (worker #4) so this will be the bottleneck. an insertion with those primality test can take about 5 or 10 minutes for only one seq!