20220506, 21:16  #1  
"Serge"
Mar 2008
Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2
2×5×991 Posts 
FastECPP software and 50000 digit primality proof (reposted from NMBRTHRY)
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20220506, 22:05  #2 
Sep 2002
Database er0rr
10240_{8} Posts 
An amazing feat! Such parallelism and clever mathematics run on some very big hardware. I take my hat off to these provers.

20220506, 23:17  #3 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
5·11·61 Posts 
So 71 years of CPU time for 51,000 digits vs 20 months * 64 cores ~ 107 years of CPU time for 49,081 digits.
But depends on how comparable those CPU core years are. 51,000 digits is supposed to take (51000/49081)^3.75 ~ 15% longer ? At least with Primo. 
20220506, 23:29  #4 
"Serge"
Mar 2008
Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2
2×5×991 Posts 
Note in their text that they say "This <<...>> probably indicates nonoptimal choices of parameters. On the other hand, it leads to very short certificates: We reach a length of only 1645 steps" (!!).
They call it a prerelease. They will likely optimize it even more. Btw, I had to "massage" their cert a little bit, but then factorDB took it. Took 3 iterations slightly reformatting the file (and to rename it into .out file) 
20220506, 23:31  #5  
Sep 2002
Database er0rr
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I used quad channel DDR 2400MHz for R49081's certification. I guess they were using octa channel most of the time, but that does not explain their speed fully. There is marginal gain by having fewer stage 2 steps to do. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 20220506 at 23:53 

20220506, 23:33  #6  
Sep 2002
Database er0rr
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20220506, 23:50  #7 
"Serge"
Mar 2008
Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2
10011010110110_{2} Posts 
I made a shorter jump and forwarded NMBRTHRY email to Caldwell. (though he is surely on the list.*)
________ * Funny story: a few years ago a ton (literally!) of porn links started coming every day via NMBRTHRY email list. It went on for quite a while. Many folks, I am afraid, unsubscribed from it at that point. Since then it has been moderated with huge delays. One curious example was when an invitation to a December conference was sent out in March. 
20220507, 00:33  #8 
Bemusing Prompter
"Danny"
Dec 2002
California
9AD_{16} Posts 
This is great news for two reasons:
1. It's a new ECPP world record. 2. We finally have an opensource ECPP implementation that can compete with Primo. I'm aware that Marcel has no obligation to make Primo open source, but I do feel that closedsource software goes against the spirit of science. Last fiddled with by ixfd64 on 20220507 at 02:14 
20220507, 07:31  #9 
Jun 2009
2^{3}·3·29 Posts 
Holy s**t!
Hats off and congrats to all those involved. That is some serious soft and hardware. I wonder how big the code can go? There are so many interesting numbers from 50K to 100K digits. Just the electricity cost alone will make such a number pretty valuable 
20220507, 15:15  #11 
Sep 2002
Database er0rr
2^{5}·7·19 Posts 
Some entity should set up fastECPP for a proofoverthenet. Clients could latch onto the main server. This way a 60k proof might be computed in a reasonable amount of time.
Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 20220507 at 15:22 
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