20081207, 02:27  #1 
P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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P1 factoring anyone?
I'll be watching over the next few months how many people sign up for P1 factoring. We have tons of people doing LL and TF, we need more people signing up for P1.
In the new scheme of things, if P1 doesn't get done then when an exponent is assigned to an LL tester he must do the P1, last 2 levels of TF, and then the LL test. If not enough people sign up for P1, I'll have to tweak "do what makes the most sense" to assign some P1 factoring. We have plenty of time to work this out as the leading edge of exponents that need P1 factoring and are holding up TF is above 48 million. It will take a while before the leading edge of LL gets that high. 
20081207, 03:11  #2  
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
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Why?
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The summary also shows almost 34,000 P1 available from 4445M?? What is the preferred hardware for P1? I have my new Q9550, 64 Bit, 4GB RAM. So it would certainly be a fast factoring maching but then it would also be near the upper end in LL performance too. 

20081207, 05:50  #3 
Oct 2008
California
2^{2}·59 Posts 
i'll take it up, once i find out the cause of prime95 not assigning p1 work to one of my workers

20081207, 10:20  #4 
"Jacob"
Sep 2006
Brussels, Belgium
1856_{10} Posts 
I would like to have the 64 bits version of Prime95 25.8.2 (or later) first. Otherwise I will be wasting 6 GB of RAM. I seem to insist on overworking you in my many communications on different channels ;)
Jacob 
20081207, 13:24  #5  
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Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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If we have plenty of P1 volunteers, then the P1 assignment happens in a timely manner, and the exponent is assigned for the final two bits of trial factoring. If we don't have many P1 volunteers, when the leading edge of LL testers reaches 51 million the exponent is assigned for LL testing. The LL tester must do the P1, 2 levels of TF, and then the LL test. I'm intentionally assigning P1 exponents that are holding up TF. The 34,000 exponents in 4445M were TFed by the v4 server which did not stop 2 bit levels shy of completing TF. Because of memory bandwidth limitations, consensus seems to be a Q9550 should be doing 3 workers of LL/P1 and 1 worker of TF. If you had one of your 3 LL/P1 workers dedicated entirely to P1 then you would be doing more than your fair share. 

20081207, 18:59  #6 
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
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As S485122 suggested do I not need the 64 Bit Version of Prime95 to go along with my 64 Bit Vista to get the P1 thruput benefit?

20081207, 19:27  #7 
"Nancy"
Aug 2002
Alexandria
2467_{10} Posts 
Out of curiosity, are you trial factoring residue classes that are more likely to be P1smooth to lower bound than the rest?
Alex 
20081207, 20:34  #8  
"Jacob"
Sep 2006
Brussels, Belgium
740_{16} Posts 
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Jacob 

20081207, 22:20  #9 
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Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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There are diminishing returns for extra memory. I suspect anything over 500MB yields very small benefits  but I do not have any benchmarks to back that up.

20081207, 22:20  #10 
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Yeehaw, FL
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20081207, 22:22  #11 
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"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
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Okay...but isn't it documented that 64Bit OS along with 64Bit Prime95 are faster for factoring? Or is that just for TF and not for P1?
