Ukraine cries. Everyone is lying. UN expresses 'deep concerns' - Page 36

2022-05-15, 00:16

Here's the thing that is just not right, the waste.

""I was part of a tragic generation," Averbakh said about this. "Many friends died in the war, but I was lucky. Such a fate, I did not do anything for this—that's how life was." Historical records indicate that 93 percent of Russian males born in 1922 died at the front."

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Originally Posted by Jan S

Soviet-Russian chess grandmaster and chess composer died at the age of 100. https://www.chess.com/news/view/yuri-averbakh-obituary

xilman · 2022-05-16, 16:59

I loved this one:

https://twitter.com/Kaylan_TX/status...97592232796167

Dr Sardonicus · 2022-08-04, 13:01

The US Senate has voted 95-1 to let Finland and Sweden join NATO.

It is possible that objections from Turkey could still prevent them from joining - member states have to be unanimous in allowing new nations to join, and NATO member Turkey has voiced reservations.

As to the Senate vote, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted "Present."

The only opposing vote was cast by Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO). He maintained that China is a greater threat to the US than Russia, and claimed that we can't afford to devote resources to check the aggressive ambitions of both Russia and China.

Speaking for myself...

By failing to oppose Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine, we would be encouraging China in its ambitions as well. China is watching and waiting to see how Russia fares in Ukraine. If Russia is at all successful, China will be emboldened to take over Taiwan by force.

We cannot afford not to oppose the hegemonic ambitions of both Russia and China. I am reminded of the words of Thomas Paine who wrote in "The American Crisis," also known as "The Crisis:"

These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated.

More immediately relevant is President John F. Kennedy's inaugural address. It was the height of the Cold War. We viewed the Soviet Union as an existential threat to our nation, the democracies of Western Europe, and to liberty itself. Kennedy said,

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge - and more.

Comes now Josh Hawley: "Gee, it might cost a lot of money."

masser · 2022-08-04, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

Comes now Josh Hawley: "Gee, it might cost a lot of money."[/b]

Comes now Josh Hawley: "Dear Vladimir, please consider supporting my candidacy for POTUS in 2024"

kriesel · 2022-08-04, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

More immediately relevant is President John F. Kennedy's inaugural address. It was the height of the Cold War. We viewed the Soviet Union as an existential threat to our nation, the democracies of Western Europe, and to liberty itself. Kennedy said,

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge - and more.

Comes now Josh Hawley: "Gee, it might cost a lot of money."

In JFK's day, "made in the USA" still dominated. Now it's mostly "made in China". Imagine the supply chain issues that would ensue promptly upon the onset of combat over Taiwan. https://illuminatingfacts.com/ranked...usa-and-china/ Also China would likely be unwilling to continue to lend the USA more money to fund anything during such an effort. China holds "only" ~1T of the ~30.5T nominal US debt. https://www.investopedia.com/article...t-how-much.asp

Dr Sardonicus · 2022-08-04, 20:37

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Originally Posted by masser

Comes now Josh Hawley: "Dear Vladimir, please consider supporting my candidacy for POTUS in 2024"

Dear Josh:

Thanks for thinking of me.

I thought the last candidate I supported was going to run again.

And I thought you supported him as well.

Do you know something I don't?

Best wishes, and send him my regards,

Uncle Vlad

Batalov · 2022-09-20, 19:25

Some more mad developments in the aggressive invasion area, as well as in the Russian collective unconscious personified by Mr.Pu (who was expected to give address to the nation but perhaps forgot about it? Old age? he is late by > 2 hours.)

(The retaking of Kharkiv region was a fine development. Not this week's news.)

EDIT: He ... cancelled the address to the nation (!). Do you know any other president who announced a

State of the Union speech and then cancelled it? Uncanny!

xilman · 2022-09-21, 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batalov

Some more mad developments in the aggressive invasion area, as well as in the Russian collective unconscious personified by Mr.Pu (who was expected to give address to the nation but perhaps forgot about it? Old age? he is late by > 2 hours.)

(The retaking of Kharkiv region was a fine development. Not this week's news.)

EDIT: He ... cancelled the address to the nation (!). Do you know any other president who announced a

State of the Union speech and then cancelled it? Uncanny!

Happened this morning instead.

retina · 2022-09-21, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Batalov

Do you know any other president who announced a

State of the Union speech and then cancelled it?

Is Russia a union? There was the USSR long ago, that was a union.

I've only seen it stated as the Russian Federation since the USSR collapse.

Dr Sardonicus · 2022-09-21, 12:43

Calling up 300,000 reservists seven months into the "special military operation" was always part of the plan, of course. Everything's going just fine.

Sounds like sham Anschluss referenda will be held in various parts of eastern Ukraine.

Batalov · 2022-09-21, 18:40

"It was worse than a crime - it was a mistake."

Not the first in a series, but still a remarkably bad one. A fatal mistake.

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2022-05-16, 16:59	#387
xilman Bamboozled! "𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭" May 2003 Down not across 2D8E₁₆ Posts	I loved this one: https://twitter.com/Kaylan_TX/status...97592232796167

2022-08-04, 13:01	#388
Dr Sardonicus Feb 2017 Nowhere 6,229 Posts	The US Senate has voted 95-1 to let Finland and Sweden join NATO. It is possible that objections from Turkey could still prevent them from joining - member states have to be unanimous in allowing new nations to join, and NATO member Turkey has voiced reservations. As to the Senate vote, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted "Present." The only opposing vote was cast by Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO). He maintained that China is a greater threat to the US than Russia, and claimed that we can't afford to devote resources to check the aggressive ambitions of both Russia and China. Speaking for myself... By failing to oppose Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine, we would be encouraging China in its ambitions as well. China is watching and waiting to see how Russia fares in Ukraine. If Russia is at all successful, China will be emboldened to take over Taiwan by force. We cannot afford not to oppose the hegemonic ambitions of both Russia and China. I am reminded of the words of Thomas Paine who wrote in "The American Crisis," also known as "The Crisis:" These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated. More immediately relevant is President John F. Kennedy's inaugural address. It was the height of the Cold War. We viewed the Soviet Union as an existential threat to our nation, the democracies of Western Europe, and to liberty itself. Kennedy said, Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge - and more. Comes now Josh Hawley: "Gee, it might cost a lot of money."

2022-09-20, 19:25	#392
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 3×7×479 Posts	Some more mad developments in the aggressive invasion area, as well as in the Russian collective unconscious personified by Mr.Pu (who was expected to give address to the nation but perhaps forgot about it? Old age? he is late by > 2 hours.) (The retaking of Kharkiv region was a fine development. Not this week's news.) EDIT: He ... cancelled the address to the nation (!). Do you know any other president who announced a State of the Union speech and then cancelled it? Uncanny!

2022-09-21, 12:43	#395
Dr Sardonicus Feb 2017 Nowhere 6,229 Posts	Calling up 300,000 reservists seven months into the "special military operation" was always part of the plan, of course. Everything's going just fine. Sounds like sham Anschluss referenda will be held in various parts of eastern Ukraine.

2022-09-21, 18:40	#396
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 3×7×479 Posts	"It was worse than a crime - it was a mistake." Not the first in a series, but still a remarkably bad one. A fatal mistake.