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Old 2011-12-17, 13:50   #1
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I suspect he's comparing the C166 with the C2xx and even C3xx which have been factored by SNFS. Many people here know why that's a false comparison but we all have to learn sometime.
Yet another illustration of what I have been saying. People need to
do some background reading before opening their mouths.

The first question that should have been asked is: "Where can I learn
about how NFS works?", BEFORE asking any other question.

But some people never learn. And some refuse to learn.
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Old 2011-12-17, 13:58   #2
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Yet another illustration of what I have been saying. </snip>
And saying, already. -bd
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Old 2011-12-17, 14:38   #3
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Yet another illustration of what I have been saying. People need to do some background reading before opening their mouths.
No, they don't need to. It would be a more ideal world if they did, yes, but this is not an ideal world. I realise it annoys you to see people arriving with misapprehensions and then losing them; there are people here which it doesn't annoy, and so you should keep your mouth shut and let the tolerant people answer. Expressing annoyance never helps.
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Old 2011-12-17, 15:30   #4
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But some people never learn. And some refuse to learn.
And some have learning thrust upon them.

A little learning is a dangerous thing

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Old 2011-12-17, 15:50   #5
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No, they don't need to. It would be a more ideal world if they did, yes, but this is not an ideal world. I realise it annoys you to see people arriving with misapprehensions and then losing them; there are people here which it doesn't annoy, and so you should keep your mouth shut and let the tolerant people answer. Expressing annoyance never helps.
They do not need to in an absolute sense, but they do need to do so
if they desire not to look foolish.

Go read Andre Toom's essay on pseudo-education in the U.S.

The problem is not specific to mathematics.

And if educators never speak about the problem nothing will ever
be done about it. Speaking may not help, but saying nothing is
certain to not help.
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Old 2011-12-17, 15:54   #6
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And saying, already. -bd
And I will continue to say it.
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And saying, already. -bd
Enough Garo-speak already.
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And some have learning thrust upon them.
As you both have recently had demonstrated to you.
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Old 2011-12-17, 16:06   #9
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And I will continue to say it.
Too late to stop now

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Old 2011-12-17, 16:13   #10
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As you both have recently had demonstrated to you.
You're Bard
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Old 2011-12-17, 16:57   #11
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They do not need to in an absolute sense, but they do need to do so if they desire not to look foolish.
Please remind me of that phrase you like to use on occasion. Something about assuming and evidence.
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