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Old 2021-05-26, 08:57   #12
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semi-revelant, xkcd again
https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/
I'm co-author of a paper which examined sneakernet in the context of interstellar communication.

Turns out to be very competitive indeed under a range of conditions. The bandwidth can be very large and the latency within an order of magnitude or two of that of electromagnetic signalling.
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Old 2021-05-26, 15:53   #13
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Approximating the internal storage volume of a 3BR home as 2.3M high x 7M wide x 13M long x 2 floors = ~419 cubic meters (without including an attached garage),
and the amount of data to be stored as 20 Zettabyte http://www.live-counter.com/how-big-is-the-internet/, we need a data storage density of 20 ZB /(419m^3) = 20,000,000,000 TB/(419m^3) ~ 48,000,000 TB/m^3.
A 2TB M2 external SSD is ~10.7x3.2x1.05 cm^3 (without cabling, racking etc), so 2 TB / 3.6e-6m^3 = 556,300. TB/m^3. That's a problem, 86 times more volume per TB than available.
MicroSD at 1TB, 16x12x1mm^3 is ~5.3E6 TB/m^3. Still too bulky, by about a factor of 9.2.
That's for cold disconnected offline storage. If you want it online, with cabling, cooling, systems it's interfaced to, it would require considerably higher storage density devices.
Cost is another matter. At ~$20/TB, it's $400,000,000,000 for the drives, assuming that the volume of purchase does not raise prices. Compare to the assets of these individuals.
Allowing for growth, you're going to need ~70TB/second, and increasing at Moore's Law rates, 560,000 times gigabit fiber speed.

So, I conclude an offline snapshot could be fit in a neighborhood or large warehouse, offline, but budget is a problem, as is updating.
If you're allowed to compress that info, that number becomes a lot more manageable. You could fit that data into most houses if you had the budget for all of the required hardware:
https://www.livescience.com/54094-ho...-internet.html
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the information capacity of the world's analog and digital storage was 295 optimally compressed exabytes
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Old 2021-05-27, 06:38   #14
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"Could you fit the entire public Internet inside your home?"

You are a tricky guy, you want to know how big my home is. Let's see how long it will take until kriesel will be all over you.

If I would be the one posting the thread and the pool, he would already be on my head by now, jumping hard, haha.

The answer to your question is yes. Assuming the internet stops and freezes right now, and you allow me enough time to back-up everything, every public bit of info which is not duplicated, then I could store all data in a normal room (no power supplies, nor peripheral circuits, just storage support). The micro-SD is not the most efficient storage way now, but one ΞΌSD is 0.7mm thick, and 15x11 mm wide, so you could stack over 580 millions of them in a normal living room, and each of them in the newest modern technology could store currently 1TB (the 1.6TB version is expected in August, and 2TB in October, this year). So, we are talking about 600 exabytes, close to a zettabyte, I think that's the storage volume of all hard drives ever produced and shipped around the world. Google storage space is somewhere at 20 to 30 exaB, but that is only marginally filled.

If you want to get really "high tech", one single gram of DNA can store about 0.4 exaBytes of information. See how you pack that in the room... Fold-it is the future

Edit: well... grrrr... my info may be a little bit outdated... take it with a grain of salt. But about the DNA, the "room full of all internet" still stands.

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Old 2021-05-27, 07:36   #15
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"Could you fit the entire public Internet inside your home?"

You are a tricky guy, you want to know how big my home is.
Hah.

Well since we are looking for hidden meanings, then clearly it must be a question designed to see who is willing to claim ownership of parts of the planet. As in: can you really say it is your home?

And since I know that I own the entire planet, then it is obvious that I can fit the entire Internet inside it.

I'm still organising your first rent bills. I hope you have all been keeping something aside to pay up. It's gonna be a biggy. And eviction from the planet would not be pleasant, so you wouldn't want to forget to pay.
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Old 2021-05-27, 16:17   #16
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And since I know that I own the entire planet, then it is obvious that I can fit the entire Internet inside it.
What about the Deep-ET-web.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink

https://www.starlink.com/

https://www.heavens-above.com/StarLi...7%94&alt=0&tz=

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Old 2021-05-27, 18:55   #17
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What about the Deep-ET-web.
It will easily fit.

Have you seen the Earth lately? There are still plenty of places to store things like that.
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