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 2017-02-24, 05:07 #23 a1call     "Rashid Naimi" Oct 2015 Remote to Here/There 2×7×139 Posts Note: The allocatemem()s are commented out. Code: print("\nBMT-300-A-Alternative-Factorials=Falsorials-PRPs.gp\n") /* allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem() allocatemem()*/ for(n= 3,3,{ forstep (i=3,3,1, falsorial=i; while(falsorial<10^1000000, falsorial=falsorial*(falsorial-1);\\print(falsorial); print(#digits(falsorial)," decimal digits."); ); ) }) print("**** End of Run ****") Code: BMT-300-A-Alternative-Factorials=Falsorials-PRPs.gp 1 decimal digits. 2 decimal digits. 3 decimal digits. 6 decimal digits. 12 decimal digits. 24 decimal digits. 48 decimal digits. 95 decimal digits. 189 decimal digits. 377 decimal digits. 753 decimal digits. 1505 decimal digits. 3010 decimal digits. 6020 decimal digits. 12040 decimal digits. 24079 decimal digits. 48157 decimal digits. 96314 decimal digits. 192628 decimal digits. *** at top-level: ...ial*(falsorial-1);print(#digits(falsorial)," *** ^-------------------- *** digits: the PARI stack overflows ! current stack size: 8000000 (7.629 Mbytes) [hint] you can increase GP stack with allocatemem() **** End of Run ****
 2017-02-24, 05:10 #24 a1call     "Rashid Naimi" Oct 2015 Remote to Here/There 36328 Posts My 80k dd estimate was way off, but the point is Pari can handle arithmetic on far larger integers than its #digits() function can be used to count digits for.
2017-02-24, 12:11   #25
science_man_88

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by a1call My 80k dd estimate was way off, but the point is Pari can handle arithmetic on far larger integers than its #digits() function can be used to count digits for.
you could use length(Str(number))

2017-02-24, 12:24   #26
paulunderwood

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by science_man_88 you could use length(Str(number))

Code:
? allocatemem(100000000)
***   Warning: new stack size = 100000000 (95.367 Mbytes).
? length(Str(10^26000000))
26000001

 2017-02-24, 12:30 #27 science_man_88     "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 8,369 Posts another possibility is using digits with a base other than 10 in theory you could square a number and square the base the digits are counted in and end up with the same amount of digits roughly.
2017-02-25, 01:35   #28
a1call

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by science_man_88 you could use length(Str(number))
Thank you SM. Will give that a try.

 2017-03-02, 15:03 #29 a1call     "Rashid Naimi" Oct 2015 Remote to Here/There 36328 Posts The title of this thread is too huge to let it sink. Wouldn't n-1 and n+1 test be ideal for getting large primes using falserials? You start with known prime factors for 30, see if 30-1 is prime and get 30*29., Know it's prime factors, see if 869 is prime,... All using n-1 lucas test.
2019-03-25, 03:44   #30
a1call

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The following 36716 dd Falserial has been proven Prime using PFGW:

There is currently no established way of showing the integer in a reduced form, but it would be quite easy to invent one.
Attached Files
 36716 dd Falserial By Rashid Naimi - Proven Prime using PFGW.txt (35.9 KB, 53 views)

 2019-03-25, 04:07 #31 Batalov     "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 23CA16 Posts Are you sure that this is a Falserial and not a Ulshmartragorian? We don't know what either of these words mean. Your attached document shows nothing pertaining to PFGW. Could you please attach the full output of PFGW, where it says "is prime"?
 2019-03-25, 04:23 #32 a1call     "Rashid Naimi" Oct 2015 Remote to Here/There 111100110102 Posts The number is added to pfgw-prime.log using the -t flag which I believe it means it is a deterministic Prime. I could PM you the the helper file where every Prime is proven Prime by smaller found primes. The reason I did not post it in the open is to make a point that it can be proven prime if you have the structure in seconds but without it would take months or years. If the proper notation is invented/used it can also be proven prime in seconds since the structure would be known. If you would like to verify the primality please add the primes in the PM to a helper file as they are proven prime and move up to the last term.
2019-03-25, 04:32   #33
a1call

"Rashid Naimi"
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Turns out I don't know how to add an attachment to the PM so I will attach it to this post.

You will have to prove each lower prime 1st and then add it to the helper file for proving the subsequent primes using the N-1 method.

The last 2 primes are of the same order.
Attached Files
 pfgw-prime.log (107.9 KB, 60 views)