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Old 2021-09-21, 09:09   #188
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[…] I don't know if German has separate words for those […].
You would always say auf (engl. on) dieser Webseite and in (engl. in) meiner Datenbank, but Ich las es in einer Webseite and Meine Daten befinden sich auf einer Datenbank sounds definitely wrong to me. For local storage: Ich speichere meine Daten auf einer Festplatte/SSD or auf meinem Computer, but Meine Zwischenergebnisse befinden sich im (engl. in the) Arbeitsspeicher (in RAM).

For "Wiki", it is more complicated. While you would say Auf [der Seite] Wikipedia konnte man sich darüber informieren… (you could inform yourself on Wikipedia about…), you would likely say In diesem Wiki(pedia)-Artikel geht es um Käse (this Wiki(pedia) article is about cheese) like if you would say In dieser Anleitung erkläre ich euch, wie man einen Fisch entgrätet (in this manual I tell you how to remove fish bones).
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Old 2021-09-21, 09:57   #189
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I should probably clarify about "on a database". That would be for something like a searchable database, such as one you'd find at an online library, rather than an SQL database you'd maintain for a website. I definitely would never say something like "The data on my database went missing," unless I was speaking metonymically about the server it was on, i.e. "The data on my database server went missing." Now, running queries "on a database" is a different thing entirely.
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Old 2021-09-23, 07:56   #190
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Although it's only one letter (difference in wording of "in" instead "on") where I thinks it's not worth to discuss, but I've done this:

I've changed the phrase on top of the table in "There are currently xxx entries".
A template for such information is not required I think, because:
- it's only a small notice
- it depends on the table if the notice is given by the DPL-command or with an own command (differs, too)
- this is only a quick notice for not counting by yourself
- this notice could be omitted, when looking at the category (the counting is given there)
And yes, such phase is not the only one in/on this Wiki.

The description is given in the page title and the line above, so no need to repeat it in that phrase again.

I've inserted 'scope="row"' for this DPL-command, too.
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Old 2021-09-23, 08:59   #191
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Although it's only one letter (difference in wording of "in" instead "on") where I thinks it's not worth to discuss, but I've done this:

I've changed the phrase on top of the table in "There are currently xxx entries".
A template for such information is not required I think, because:
- it's only a small notice
- it depends on the table if the notice is given by the DPL-command or with an own command (differs, too)
- this is only a quick notice for not counting by yourself
- this notice could be omitted, when looking at the category (the counting is given there)
And yes, such phase is not the only one in/on this Wiki.

The description is given in the page title and the line above, so no need to repeat it in that phrase again.

I've inserted 'scope="row"' for this DPL-command, too.
The lead wasn't addressed, so I took that into my own hands and expanded that myself. Some new members to the project might want an explanation as to why there are so many missing ranges.

Understood on the notice. I didn't know if the "in"/"on" was a typo or a common translation error, since I've seen it before (not necessarily from you, but I wanted to rule it out).

The DPL template still needs the exclamation point for the scope="row" to be useful. That's what makes it a row header (and semantically correct). You'll be able to override the default gray coloring using CSS.
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Old 2021-09-23, 11:41   #192
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The abbreviations inserted in the table header cells seems helpful on one side but explodes the code and makes it harder to read/edit on the other side.
Another question on my side: It seems self-explanatory so is it really needed here?

A more easier way to do this is to create a page, where such a table (and there're many others) are explained like the table headers (Nash), or the sorting ability or colouring.

If you only want to make those things more 'readable' for visually handicapped people (tools for reading out loud) or controllable it's too much to handle. The same is for building all pages to be accessible for mobiles, where I say strictly 'No' then.
I want to bring in more information and still have to make my mind, how to do this in many cases.

The (Generalized) Fermat Numbers are now manageable including there "GF Divisors" with links to the Proth prime pages and many historical data maintained by W.Keller's pages.
He only gave lists for Fermat numbers and for GFn-bases for 2,3,5,6,7,10,11,12 but no others (especially 8). More lists can be created by the new templates not available on any other internet page so far.
This Wiki is still not fully implemented and it could take years until all data are available so those table enhancements have to wait on my side.
I got more ideas to handle with like including references to online books and articles of authors to suppress the history of findings (like those, many articles of "Mathematics of Computation" are available as PDF).
Counting primes and creating downloadable LLR-type resultfiles or prime listings are another topic to do.
How to handle the check of Twin primes? Is it done always for any new Riesel prime found?
What about new Proth primes? Are those always checked for GFN divisibilities? How to manage this in the Wiki?
So way more work to do than those detailing.
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Old 2021-09-27, 15:07   #193
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I created a template in my user sandbox (https://www.rieselprime.de/ziki/User...te:Riesel_list) in order to standardize the primary Riesel prime lists. Most of the pages would now become calls to this template, which would only require a few lines, while the logic would be in the template. I also included support for bases other than 2 via an extra parameter.
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