Getting others to do the work on exponents I like (was: Trial Factoring Progress)

[tuckerkao]

Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

I was intrigued by the OP's specificity in claiming to have mistyped a single digit. Why only one - and how did he know?

I typically finished TFs from 2⁷⁴ to 2⁷⁷, P-1, then further TFs. If 1 of the steps was missing when I tried to perform the next task, I sometimes looked up my submitted results during the past several days.

M168526123 had the TFs done to 2⁸¹ before P-1, I thought my P-1 could have wrongly gone to M168506123 based on the time stamps info, but I wasn't exactly sure about this case.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

M168526123 had the TFs done to 2⁸¹ before P-1, I thought my P-1 could have wrongly gone to M168506123 based on the time stamps info, but I wasn't exactly sure about this case.

In other words, you don't really know that you mistyped an exponent at all.

In any case, you now know how to avoid that problem in future.

[tuckerkao]

Originally Posted by Stargate38

I don't think he needs to provide valid evidence for a prime being there. I think he might just be searching a range of his choice that's not heavily used. If I were him, I would do the same to keep from accidentally poaching someone else's exponent (i.e. because of a typo).

I plan to solo debut the M168.4M subrange around noon server time of July 4th, 2022 as the tier 2⁷⁷ monopoly tycoon and ready for mass P-1. 1,630 exponents remain at 2⁷⁶ with 51 days to go from now on.

There are a lot of PRP testers working on the front-wave exponents. It's impossible to run over the TFs as 1 single user without involving huge amount of poach process to own an entire subrange. Zhangrc could reserve only up to certain amount of M108.3M exponents for TFs from 2⁷⁶ to 2⁷⁷ last year. The trial factoring, P-1, PRP shouldn't be performed by 2 different users at the same time as quoted below by Prime95 earlier this year.

Originally Posted by Prime95

Two people working on the same exponent at the same time is the very definition of poaching. Do it and you will get banned from the forum.

Originally Posted by ATH

Let's just celebrate a 2 year pandemic might be ending soon with a cold war, then a real war and maybe a World War.....

This might be the solution to the Fermi Paradox: "Intelligence" is an oxymoron, any species developing enough "intelligence" will eventually get stupid enough to destroy themselves.

"Life sucks....and then you die."

At least the full scale world war didn't break out, so I'm still able to finish up more M168,***,*23 exponents on the monthly basis.

Fortunately I'm not dead yet because the decimal based Mersenne crowds haven't shown a new Mersenne Prime smaller than M168M at the moment to prove me wrong despite it's only 3 exponents away from completing the M109M first time tests milestone.

Originally Posted by kriesel

~99.9875% chance all of M168,xxx,x23 are composite.

~99.9875% chance that none of the 3(Kriesel, ATH, George Woltman) will be willing to run a prime test(PRP/LL) of 1 M168,***,*23 exponent of my choice starting on July 5th, 2022, but I still have to put in sufficient amount of trial factoring GHz days within M168M to satisfy myself.

Originally Posted by Viliam Furik

Stop it or I'll get a heart attack from laughing too hard... Even though I'm 18. (that is a bad joke, don't take it seriously)

If you somehow get a P-PRP result, "GIMPS prime discovery protocols" will come into action and a bunch of undisclosed trusted individuals will be tasked with running an LL test to verify the discovery.

I don't know whether you are still very active like last year or not, but drop by some jokes if you happen to visit my thread. I need your humor to keep up the momentum to finish up the monopoly blocks expanding mainly within the M168.4M subrange which I've started since several months ago.

[axn]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

Fortunately I'm not dead yet because the decimal based Mersenne crowds haven't shown a new Mersenne Prime smaller than M168M at the moment to prove me wrong despite it's only 3 exponents away from completing the M109M first time tests milestone.

What is wrong with you! You have some weird ideas about other people. And math. And probabilities.

[Viliam Furik]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

I don't know whether you are still very active like last year or not, but drop by some jokes if you happen to visit my thread. I need your humor to keep up the momentum to finish up the monopoly blocks expanding mainly within the M168.4M subrange which I've started since several months ago.

You do realize you are the object of my humor, right? I am laughing at you, not with you.

[mathwiz]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

I plan to solo debut the M168.4M subrange around noon server time of July 4th, 2022 as the tier 2⁷⁷ monopoly tycoon and ready for mass P-1.

Whatever the hell this even means?

We promise you: no one else besides you cares so much about this range.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

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~99.9875% chance that none of the 3(Kriesel, ATH, George Woltman) will be willing to run a prime test(PRP/LL) of 1 M168,***,*23 exponent of my choice starting on July 5th, 2022, but I still have to put in sufficient amount of trial factoring GHz days within M168M to satisfy myself.
<snip>

For PRP make that a 100% chance - at least, until your pet ranges are in the wavefront. I reckon that's going to be a while. If you want to do a PRP on an exponent of your choice (after first doing enough TF and P-1), AFAIK you will be free to do so.

For LL make that a greater than 100% chance. No first-time LL test is going to be done by anybody - including you - on any exponent, unless it has tested PRP with CERT or (if the "cheap" certification process fails) a DC.

[kriesel]

Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

For PRP make that a 100% chance...
For LL make that a greater than 100% chance. No first-time LL test is going to be done by anybody

... nearly, unless a specific exponent appears in the Predict M52 thread, or elsewhere as some dubious claim of a prime. I routinely refute those with PRP/GEC/proof/cert. I'm currently working through PRP DC of the last outstanding that were done before the advent of PRP proof & cert capability. There are also some monsters undone or not even feasible to do.

https://mersenneforum.org/showpost.p...3&postcount=40
https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...04&postcount=5

[tuckerkao]

I scored a 3-pointer on trial factoring today - M168440609, M168442367, M168445471.

The video was dedicated for a surprised 3-pointer shot during a basketball practice of a famous man - https://twitter.com/OliviaRaisner/st...64700052705283


Zhangrc finished working TFs of 2⁷⁶ to 2⁷⁷ from M108388879 to M108399979 using his Geforce 3060. Time stamps stretched from Oct 3, 2021 to Dec 7, 2021.

I have Geforce 3080 10 GB which has been around 2.65x the speed compare to Zhangrc's GPU according to the mfaktc benchmarks on https://www.mersenne.ca/mfaktc.php. I started within https://www.mersenne.org/report_expo...8447000&full=1 back on Mar 1, 2022, 1 week away from 3 full months as of today.

I've brought every single exponent from M168446023 to M168466187 up to 2⁷⁷ as of the afternoon of May 25, 2022 -> https://www.mersenne.ca/status/tf/0/0/4/16800
1,297 total M168 exponents are up to 2⁷⁷ with M168.4M and (M168377123 to M168399991) as the main focus. The total unfactored M168.4M exponents will drop down from 2,033 to 2,030 after 00:23 AM, May 26, 2022 server time.

Originally Posted by mathwiz

No, it would be better for the GIMPS project if you worked at the current front-wave.

Working TFs close to the front-wave means a very tight deadline and not exactly predictable. Tons of poaching can manifest if I cannot meet the deadline because I still haven't figured out how the GIMPS server assigns the exponents out and how other GPU factoring teams operate. Unless you've really enjoyed to see the moments when I stepped on Chalsall's toes(happened during Dec 2021), there's nothing wrong to bring all the M168M exponents up to 2⁷⁷. It's not M681M or M861M, you should be able to see M168M coming to the front-wave within your near-future lifetime if Ben Delo does his PRP parts.

Majority of the front-wave exponents are up to 2⁷⁷ and TheJudger will finish them soon, I don't see the point or the necessity why I should be there - https://www.mersenne.ca/status/tf/0/0/3/11000.

Zhangrc couldn't sign his username on all of the M108.3M exponents because the front-wave crowds already knocked the door when he was working on M108388879.

[Zhangrc]

Originally Posted by tuckerkao

I scored a 3-pointer on trial factoring today - M168440609, M168442367, M168445471.

The video was dedicated for a surprised 3-pointer shot during a basketball practice of a famous man - https://twitter.com/OliviaRaisner/st...64700052705283


Zhangrc finished working TFs of 2⁷⁶ to 2⁷⁷ from M108388879 to M108399979 using his Geforce 3060. Time stamps stretched from Oct 3, 2021 to Dec 7, 2021.

I have Geforce 3080 10 GB which has been around 2.65x the speed compare to Zhangrc's GPU according to the mfaktc benchmarks on https://www.mersenne.ca/mfaktc.php. I started within https://www.mersenne.org/report_expo...8447000&full=1 back on Mar 1, 2022, 1 week away from 3 full months as of today.

I've brought every single exponent from M168446023 to M168466187 up to 2⁷⁷ as of the afternoon of May 25, 2022 -> https://www.mersenne.ca/status/tf/0/0/4/16800
1,297 total M168 exponents are up to 2⁷⁷ with M168.4M and (M168377123 to M168399991) as the main focus. The total unfactored M168.4M exponents will drop down from 2,033 to 2,030 after 00:23 AM, May 26, 2022 server time.


Zhangrc couldn't sign his username on all of the M108.3M exponents because the front-wave crowds already knocked the door when he was working on M108388879.

You are speaking nonsense.
1. I haven't had a Geforce 3060.
2. I've never thought of signing my name on all of 108.3M exponents.
3. It's not because of the front-wave crowds, instead, It's because that GPU72 reserved them, so I couldn't reserve them by Primenet anymore. As a result, I switched to GPU72 to get more assignments.
4. Almost all of the front wave exponents are TFed to 2^77, I doubt whether there are some remaining at 2^76 but not already done a first-time check. Those remaining at 2^76 are exponents with a FTC, or already certified, thus it's unnecessary to continue any TF.

[slandrum]

Originally Posted by Zhangrc

4. Almost all of the front wave exponents are TFed to 2^77, I doubt whether there are some remaining at 2^76 but not already done a first-time check. Those remaining at 2^76 are exponents with a FTC, or already certified, thus it's unnecessary to continue any TF.

This is not quite true. There are some trailing edge exponents reserved for TF from 76 to 77.