20080413, 21:24  #1 
Mar 2005
58967,17,3,3 > bc.ca
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Concept of the Infinity
When one starts to think of infinity one cannot stop thinking, and the infinity immediately starts to overwhelm that thought and the container which may be attempting to contain it. In a finite universe, the thought of the infinity immediately causes the universe to become the infinite. But the universe is finite, hence a paradox!
Ceasing to think, I now realize that the Big Bang was probably initiated by a mathematician, elsewhere and elsewhen. My expectation is that that mathematician was thinking an idle thought, and just got blown away by it when starting to think about the infinity. Continuing with that same lack of thought, I now know that idle thought about the infinity carries the need of forethought, and the practice of responsibility. So if you are a mathematician, be careful of that which you may think or not think. Just as an aside, I once started reading the book Manual on How to Think About The Infinity but I haven't finished reading it yet. But if I ever get the chance, I want to read the next manual in the series Manual on How to Think About The Paradox Commencing now thought of something close to the infinity, I am your humble mathematician, Simon of Sigh Last fiddled with by 9021951 on 20080413 at 21:27 Reason: the desperate need to underline 
20080414, 15:55  #2  
∂^{2}ω=0
Sep 2002
Repรบblica de California
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Quote:
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I once saw a fellow at the local coffee bar ostentatiously reading a luridlycovered hardback volume titled, "How to think like a genius." 

20080415, 00:13  #3 
"Mark"
Feb 2003
Sydney
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20080415, 12:55  #4 
Bamboozled!
"๐บ๐๐ท๐ท๐ญ"
May 2003
Down not across
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20080415, 12:56  #5 
Bamboozled!
"๐บ๐๐ท๐ท๐ญ"
May 2003
Down not across
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20080415, 13:28  #6 
Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
5×7×191 Posts 
Can you prove it is not finite? Which is the more extravagant claim, infinite for finite?

20080415, 13:32  #7 
"Ben"
Feb 2007
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20080415, 13:40  #8 
Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
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20080415, 13:53  #9 
"Ben"
Feb 2007
2^{2}×3×311 Posts 
Sorry for misinterpreting. For what it's worth, I think that the universe is in fact infinite, in the sense that the most likely scenario given our current understanding of things is heat death.

20080415, 14:44  #10 
"Bob Silverman"
Nov 2003
North of Boston
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20080415, 15:06  #11 
"Ben"
Feb 2007
2^{2}×3×311 Posts 
Thanks, that's a fascinating area of research I hadn't come across before. I haven't found or read his actual paper(s), but there appears to be a wealth of info on the subject elsewhere.
At first, it seemed to me that a deSitter universe supports the heat death hypothesis, because an exponentially expanding universe would seem to become diluted until maximum entropy is reached. But not so! Here's a thread which helped me see possibly why... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=14350 
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