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 2020-12-11, 06:35 #1 ONeil   Dec 2017 24×3×5 Posts Prediction Next Exponent which produces a Mersenne Prime #52 I firmly believe the next exponent that produces a Mersenne Prime if you do this to it: It will equal Zero if you mod 6 to it after a minus 1! exponent-1Mod6 will equal Zero exponent-1 % 6 = 0 I base this on the many exponents that follow a certain pattern which build perfect numbers will always and must have an occasional number when minus 1 mod 6 to the exponent it will be ZERO. I call this the ONeil perfect number Conjecture!
2020-12-11, 06:44   #2
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 Originally Posted by ONeil I firmly believe the next exponent that produces a Mersenne Prime if you do this to it:
So IOW, equal to 1 mod 6.

I guess the only other option to choose was 5 mod 6, so you have a 1-in-2 chance of being correct.

Not very god odds IMO, no better than a coin toss.

2020-12-11, 06:46   #3
ONeil

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 Originally Posted by retina So IOW, equal to 1 mod 6. I guess the only other option to choose was 5 mod 6, so you have a 1-in-2 chance of being correct. Not very god odds IMO, no better than a coin toss.
However we are due for a zero its lined up for one! The pattern should be 100% for 52 right or wrong.

Last fiddled with by ONeil on 2020-12-11 at 06:48

2020-12-11, 06:52   #4
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 Originally Posted by ONeil However we are due for a zero its lined up for one!
What do you base that claim on?

Do you have some solid mathematics behind it, or is it just some "feeling" you have and "just know"?

2020-12-11, 07:08   #5
ONeil

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 Originally Posted by retina What do you base that claim on? Do you have some solid mathematics behind it, or is it just some "feeling" you have and "just know"?

Here is the basic math

24 of the numbers from 51 of them when using minus 1 mod 6 to equal ZERO:

51-24=27

So if 27 of the numbers do not compute to ZERO than I say that the ONeil conjecture should hold for the next exponent equal a ZERO when minus 1 mod 6.

Last fiddled with by ONeil on 2020-12-11 at 07:53

2020-12-11, 07:18   #6
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 Originally Posted by ONeil Here is the basic math 24 of the numbers from 51 of them when using minus 1 mod 6 to equal ZERO: 51-24=27 So if 27 of the number do not compute to ZERO than I say that the ONeil conjecture should hold for the next exponent equal a ZERO when minus 1 mod 6.
That isn't mathematics.

That is numerology.

Also, read up on the gambler's fallacy.

Last fiddled with by retina on 2020-12-11 at 07:19

 2020-12-11, 07:43 #7 ONeil   Dec 2017 24·3·5 Posts The exponents seek to be equal with just under half showing a ZERO when using the minus 1 mod 6 formula. It is because of the number line and that is the reason. Since Perfect numbers must equal the sum of their divisors and the first one is 6 than you should always see about half of the exponents follow the ONeil conjecture where minus 1 mod 6! the numbers shall show up to balance or be over so that ZERO will seek to be half of the exponents to infinity. Yes the number shall get unbalanced like 24 and 27 but we are due for another ZERO now. My Premise is that ZERO will follow this rule and should seek to even out as many as we find:
2020-12-11, 07:59   #8
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by ONeil The exponents seek to be equal with just under half showing a ZERO when using the minus 1 mod 6 formula. It is because of the number line and that is the reason. Since Perfect numbers must equal the sum of their divisors and the first one is 6 than you should always see about half of the exponents follow the ONeil conjecture where minus 1 mod 6! the numbers shall show up to balance or be over so that ZERO will seek to be half of the exponents to infinity. Yes the number shall get unbalanced like 24 and 27 but we are due for another ZERO now. My Premise is that ZERO will follow this rule and should seek to even out as many as we find:
Just more numerology.

2020-12-11, 15:09   #9
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 Originally Posted by ONeil The exponents seek to be equal with just under half showing a ZERO when using the minus 1 mod 6 formula. It is because of the number line and that is the reason.
You realize this is just you saying that you *want* there to be this perfect symmetry, right? You haven't given any mathematical reason for it to be the case. It could just as well be that 1/3 are 5 mod 6, or 2/3 are, or 1/e, or any other constant.

2020-12-13, 17:14   #10
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by ONeil The exponents seek to be
So, numbers have consciousness, will, volition of their own. Numerology, to be sure.

2020-12-14, 07:57   #11
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 Originally Posted by ONeil However we are due for a zero its lined up for one! The pattern should be 100% for 52 right or wrong.
It's pretty easy to just throw a guess out there. If you're wrong, well, you've been wrong before. If you're right, you'll take it as a sign that there was method in the madness, rather than chance.

But if you say you're 100% sure, I take that to mean you're closer to 100% sure than to 99% sure, so at least 99.5% sure. In that case, if I wagered $20 that the next exponent would be 5 mod 6, you'd be comfortable wagering$4000 against that. Is this really how you feel?

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