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Old 2015-11-12, 21:15   #1618
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In addition to the political clout exerted by religions, as the posters above rightly refer to, there is also the problem that children are born into religions, they will frequently become official members of those religions within days of their birth, they will be indoctrinated in their religion by their families, schools and religious leaders, and by the time they may be starting to realise that they are attracted to their own sex, or that they are transgender/non-binary, they will have absorbed a huge amount of negativity about being LGBT from that indoctrination. Those who survive this and finally come to terms with who they are and accepting that, are the lucky ones, and even they probably will go through years of personal torment before achieving that.

So it really isn't good enough to suggest that religious hatred doesn't matter just because it's someone else's religion. There are people suffering because of it.
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Old 2015-11-13, 15:32   #1619
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But they do or will have POLITICAL power with respect to laws that get passed.
Denial of rights to a minority because of religious beliefs should never be put to a vote.
Yes. So long as those religious beliefs do not involve violence toward others.
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Old 2015-11-13, 15:36   #1620
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In addition to the political clout exerted by religions, as the posters above rightly refer to, there is also the problem that children are born into religions, they will frequently become official members of those religions within days of their birth, they will be indoctrinated in their religion by their families, schools and religious leaders, ...
So it really isn't good enough to suggest that religious hatred doesn't matter just because it's someone else's religion. There are people suffering because of it.
As I've said, religion is THE primary problem. False beliefs lead to false education, lead to bigotry.
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Old 2015-11-13, 18:27   #1621
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Phoenix LGBT flash mob silences bigoted preachers with "Born This Way"

At Phoenix Pride 2012, a group of bigoted preachers who attend LGBT pride celebrations in many states, heckled folks leaving the pride parade. One hurled particularly vile, un-Christian insults at the crowd, causing emotions to run high. Then a flash mob, led by Queen B, demonstrated what true Christian love was about by performing "Born This Way" to the cheers of the crowd - and silencing the hate speech of the preachers.
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Old 2015-11-13, 19:04   #1622
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Default ‘Upstairs Inferno’ a Harrowing Look at Another Era of LGBT Life

Robert L. Camina's new documentary takes an unflinching look back at 'the largest gay mass murder in U.S. history.'
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Old 2015-11-19, 21:04   #1623
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US [Embassy in Moscow] gives Russian newspaper grammar lesson over 'fake letter' to LGBT activist
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...kolai-alexeyev
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The embassy marked more than two dozen mistakes in a copy of the alleged letter that it posted on its Twitter account. “Dear Izvestia, next time you use fake letters, send them to us – we will be happy to help correct the mistakes,” it wrote at the bottom.
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Old 2015-11-27, 14:12   #1624
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The US military welcomes openly lesbian and gay personnel since the former "Don't ask don't tell" policy was finally disbanded in 2011. But openly transgender people are still barred from military service. Earlier this year there were moves towards ending this ban by the US Department of Defense, and the Defense Secretary has recently ordered the creation of a working group in the Pentagon to study the effects of allowing openly transgender people to serve, but the ban remains officially in place for the time being.

The link below is a well written essay by Dee Omally who was dismissed from the US military when she transitioned about 5 years ago. In addition to her dismissal and its impact, the essay details at first hand the reality of what it means to be transgender.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/282310912/...nion-2011-2015
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Old 2015-11-29, 17:50   #1625
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Dee Omally has since informed me that my description above is incorrect. She did indeed serve in the US Military, but that was long before she transitioned and at the time no-one knew she was transgender. When she transitioned she was then dismissed from her career at a hospital, simply for being trans. She is now on the scrapheap purely because of her transgender status, and this appalling state of affairs is still perfectly legal in the USA.
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A judge has approved attorney fees that are significantly lower than requested in a lawsuit that overturned Arkansas' gay marriage ban.
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Old 2016-02-26, 16:43   #1627
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New study in the US finds that transgender children whose families support them with ‘social transitioning’ have positive mental health outcomes

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Transgender children who are allowed to present their gender identity and change their names have good mental health outcomes, according to a study released on Friday and hailed as “crucially important”.

The study, published in the March issue of the journal Pediatrics, shows the positive impact family support can have on the lives of transgender children, a group long hidden from public view.

Researchers found normal levels of depression and only slightly elevated anxiety levels in transgender children who were supported by their families.
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Old 2016-03-25, 10:30   #1628
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New study in the US finds that transgender children whose families support them with ‘social transitioning’ have positive mental health outcomes
Belated thanks! Very encouraging study, albeit not in the least surprising in its results. Support for transgender children by their families is, of course, still extremely rare. Most transgender children grow into adults who are still living in the wrong gender and must deal with that as adults.

And some of those adults will be married, which puts a huge extra complication on their transitioning, especially if they live in one of the majority of countries of the world which have not opened marriage to same gender couples.

Australia is one of the countries where opening marriage to same sex couples is currently a hot political topic. I'd love to hear from any of our several active forum members from Australia about their take on this issue.

And here is a thoughtful article from Australia about married couples where one partner has come out as trans since the marriage.

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/t...19-13jm4n.html

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Transgender people in their position therefore face a grim choice: (1) remain legally wedded to their partners, but deny their affirmed sex in official documentation; or (2) affirm their sex on their birth certificate, and be forced into divorce.

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