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 2004-10-26, 10:57 #1 mfgoode Bronze Medalist     Jan 2004 Mumbai,India 22×33×19 Posts Rules for 'monitors' In the light of the recent “hot” controversy in math forum I submit my views Firstly I will categorise all administrators, moderators, senior and amateur math’cians including students, under the collective term of ‘MONITORS’. The monitors are varied in nationalities, age, qualifications, professions, geographical locations, the details of which are seldom disclosed even in their profiles.. However all are human in their egos. Some are well versed in their topics. Others borrow heavily from the net and pose to be authorities. Well I find them to be dedicated people and not a thread or post goes by without a comment, often humorous, by at least by one of them. Of course this is good practice. The first timer is at the outset happy to know his contribution has not gone by completely ignored. The famous French mathematician and school friend of Father Mersenne Rene’ Descartes [1596-1650] anticipated monitors almost 400 yrs.ago and applied rules for himself and others which is worth following by all of us 1) Never to accept anything for true which I do not clearly know to be such. 2) Divide each of the difficulties under examination into as many parts as possible 3) Begin with the simplest and easiest and then work step by step to the more complex 4) Make enumerations so complete and reviews so general, that I may be assured that nothing is omitted Thus Rene’ Decrates, who erected the famous motto/proof “ Cogito Ergo Sum” [I think, therefore I am] conducted his life and gave us his well known Cartesian Geometry among other insights. Let us all study the Masters and not the pupils. Mally
2005-03-19, 16:35   #2
mfgoode
Bronze Medalist

Jan 2004
Mumbai,India

22·33·19 Posts
Corporate Lesson #1

Quote:
 Originally Posted by mfgoode The famous French mathematician and school friend of Father Mersenne Rene’ Descartes [1596-1650] anticipated monitors almost 400 yrs.ago and applied rules for himself and others which is worth following by all of us 1) Never to accept anything for true which I do not clearly know to be such. 2) Divide each of the difficulties under examination into as many parts as possible 3) Begin with the simplest and easiest and then work step by step to the more complex 4) Make enumerations so complete and reviews so general, that I may be assured that nothing is omitted Thus Rene’ Decrates, who erected the famous motto/proof “ Cogito Ergo Sum” [I think, therefore I am] conducted his life and gave us his well known Cartesian Geometry among other insights. Let us all study the Masters and not the pupils. Mally

Im sure many of us have at some time or the other held executive positions in management.

I present here a set of corporate lessons (6) some of which may be off colour
but please bear with me as these contain important points worth noting in life.

Corporate Lesson #1

A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower when the doorbell rings. After a few seconds of arguing over which one should go and answer the doorbell, the wife gives up, quickly wraps herself up in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next door neighbor. Before she could say a word, Bob says, "I'll give you $800 to drop that towel that you have on." After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands totally naked in front of Bob. After a few seconds, Bob hands her 800 dollars and leaves. Confused, but excited about her good fortune, the woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. When she gets back to the bathroom, her husband asks from the shower, "Who was that?" "It was Bob the next door neighbor," she replies. "Great!" the husband says, "Did he give you the$800 he borrowed from me?"

Moral of the story:

If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure.

Lesson (2) will be sent tomorrow if this is acceptable

Mally

2005-03-20, 16:24   #3
mfgoode
Bronze Medalist

Jan 2004
Mumbai,India

22·33·19 Posts
Rules for monitors

Quote:
 Originally Posted by mfgoode Corporate Lesson #1 Moral of the story: If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure. Mally
Corporate Lesson #2

A priest was driving along and saw a nun on the side of the road. He stopped and offered her a lift which she accepted. She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to open and reveal a lovely leg. The priest had a look and nearly had an accident. After regaining control of the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg.
The nun looked at him and immediately said, "Father, remember Psalm 129?"
The priest was flustered and apologized profusely. He forced himself to remove his hand. Changing gear, he let his hand slide up her leg again. The nun once again said, "Father, remember Psalm 129?" Once again the priest apologized, "Sorry, Sister, but the flesh is weak."
Arriving at the convent, the nun got out gave him a meaningful glance and went on her way. Upon his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to retrieve a bible and looked up Psalm 129. It Said, "Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory."

Moral of the story:
If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity.

Mally

2005-03-21, 14:31   #4
Uncwilly
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by mfgoode Upon his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to retrieve a bible and looked up Psalm 129. It Said, "Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory."
Lesson 2.5
Verify everything, Psalm 129 does not say that. Psalm 129, King James Version

2005-03-21, 16:22   #5
mfgoode
Bronze Medalist

Jan 2004
Mumbai,India

22×33×19 Posts
Rules for monitors

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Uncwilly Lesson 2.5 Verify everything, Psalm 129 does not say that. Psalm 129, King James Version

Thank you Unwilly for your acute scrutiny of psalm 129 KJV.

KJV is only one of the Bibles followed by some of the many different denominations. There are very many who dont follow KJV. However this is not a religious issue and lets shelve it.

Rule 3 states:
3) Begin with the simplest and easiest and then work step by step to the more complex.

This is an anecdote to drive home a point and hence poetic licence is allowed!

Secondly what makes you pick the KJV in particular ?
IT clearly states "a Bible" so you have narrowed the search to the KJV!

Thirdly the no. 129 is not to be taken literally. It provides comic relief.

Rule 1#
Remember Desacrtes discussed mathematics not English

But if you want it your way -How about psalm 119- in Tau- verse 173 - which I have picked on a cursory check. Does it drive home the point ?

Thank you,

Mally

 2005-03-21, 16:36 #6 mfgoode Bronze Medalist     Jan 2004 Mumbai,India 1000000001002 Posts Rules for 'monitors' I hope you noted the last two. Here is; Corporate Lesson #3 A sales representative, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie comes out in a puff of smoke. The Genie says, "I usually only grant three wishes, so I'll give each of you just one." "Me first! Me first!" says the admin clerk. "I want to be in the Bahamas, driving a speedboat, without a care in the world." Poof! She's gone. In astonishment, "Me next! Me next!" says the sales rep. "I want to be in Hawaii, relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of pina coladas, and the love of my life." Poof! He's gone. "OK, you're up," the Genie says to the manager. The manager says, "I want those two back in the office after lunch." Moral of the story: Always let your boss have the first say. Mally
2005-03-21, 16:54   #7
Wacky

Jun 2003
The Texas Hill Country

32·112 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by mfgoode Thank you Unwilly for your acute scrutiny of psalm 129 KJV. KJV is only one of the Bibles followed by some of the many different denominations. There are very many who dont follow KJV. Secondly what makes you pick the KJV in particular ? IT clearly states "a Bible" so you have narrowed the search to the KJV!
Mally,
I think that your assult on Uncwilly's choice of the KJV, at best, is disingenuous. We all know that the Psalms are an ancient document that was NOT written in English. The exact wording of a particular version will vary. However, all versions are "translations" which basically say the same thing in their respective idiomatic language.

Psalm 129 clearly could not reasonably be expected to contain the offered text in ANY respectable version of "the Bible".

Perhaps Mathew 7:7 would have been more appropriate. However, that passage may also be too well known to offer the impression that a priest would not immediately recognize its content.

Last fiddled with by Wacky on 2005-03-21 at 16:58

2005-03-21, 17:15   #8
mfgoode
Bronze Medalist

Jan 2004
Mumbai,India

22×33×19 Posts
Rules for 'monitors'

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Wacky Mally, Perhaps Mathew 7:7 would have been more appropriate. However, that passage may also be too well known to offer the impression that a priest would not immediately recognize its content.

Thanks Wacky-thats a good one! but I will pass with my KJV on my lap. Id rather switch to 'A History of Pi' by petr beckman as the pattern of Pi is hot on this forum right now

Mally

 2005-03-21, 18:42 #9 Uncwilly 6809 > 6502     """"""""""""""""""" Aug 2003 101×103 Posts 3×55 Posts I pointed to the KJV, because the wording of the 'quote' in question appeared to attempt to be 'old English' and that the KJV is not a version that has a particular bent. When quoting from or citing text like this that are translated, it is quite common to note the translating, even including things like Chaucer, and some Shakespere versions. The illustration is best served by Psalm 119:176 vice Matthew 7:7.
2005-03-23, 16:27   #10
mfgoode
Bronze Medalist

Jan 2004
Mumbai,India

22×33×19 Posts
Rules for monitors

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Uncwilly The illustration is best served by Psalm 119:176 vice Matthew 7:7.
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Wacky Mally, I think that your assult on Uncwilly's choice of the KJV, at best, is disingenuous.

Firstly Uncwilly I meant no offence to you in my reply post. I follow your posts with interest and admiration and have a deep respect of the number of threads and posts you have given possibly the most and greater than any other member.

I only wanted to stress that it is not the anecdote or its details that matters provided it drives home the point.

The point in discussion in Corporate lesson (2) is 'If you are not well informed in your job you might miss a great opportunity'. Obviously the quote does not strictly apply to a 'job'. This is why you couldnt see the forest for the trees!

Moreover if you insert the complete phrase "Go forth and seek further up, you will find glory" (complete with inverted commas) in Google the second page will reveal the exact anecdote I have given. It was meant as a joke by a Christian religious leader which has gone around, and ended up in Management!

So lets bury the hatchet and move onto the next Corporate lesson

Mally

 2005-03-23, 16:37 #11 mfgoode Bronze Medalist     Jan 2004 Mumbai,India 22×33×19 Posts Rules for 'monitors' Here is Corporate lesson #4 A crow was sitting on a tree, doing nothing all day. A small rabbit saw the crow and asked him, "Can I also sit like you and do nothing all day long?" The crow answered: "Sure, why not?" So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the crow and rested. All of a sudden a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it. Moral of the story: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up. Mally

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