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Old 2020-06-22, 16:38   #12
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If you are using Windows 10 Professional, there is still an option for an offline account. We just installed a machine here freshly with Windows 10 Professional 2004 and it was connected to the internet during installation.
This has to do with activation. I learned that if I was not logged into my "store" account, activation became problematic. This was with some older versions. I do not know how it is now. My last upgrade was a patch-over of what was already there. 1903 => 1909.
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Old 2020-07-12, 22:28   #13
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I am a firm believer in the idea that if something is not broken, do not try to fix it. I ran v1903 for a long time and never had any problems. It has been the same, so far, with v1909. Perhaps it may be a good idea to stay one update behind the current. Automatic updates can be deferred for 35 days. I plan on continuing to defer for quite a while yet.
You know that:
  • Ticking the box that says "don't download updates on metered connections"
  • Unticking the box that says "get updates from other machines on your network"
  • And marking all your Internet connections as "metered"
Makes this whole dance a whole lot easier...
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Old 2020-07-13, 00:09   #14
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v1909 kept freezing on me for no apparent reason. Sometimes it would run for two weeks, other times it would freeze every two or three days. I couldn't find a reason for this since there was nothing in the event logs.

Since I updated to v2004 on June 16, this has not happened. I haven't had any unexpected stops with this version. The update took a long time, around two hours.
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Old 2020-07-13, 00:19   #15
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v1909 kept freezing on me for no apparent reason...
For me, Windows 10 Pro 1909 build 18363.900 runs very stable, I will take care not to update into the uncertainty in the next 360 days.
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Old 2020-07-13, 15:25   #16
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For me, Windows 10 Pro 1909 build 18363.900 runs very stable, I will take care not to update into the uncertainty in the next 360 days.
I had a restart required update two days ago. v1909 18363.900 is the current. I reset the defer dates to as far out as I could make them. I have learned to never jump into something totally new for a period of time. As long as I can stay away from v2004, I will.
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Old 2020-07-14, 19:02   #17
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I'm not encouraging anyone to update; just to let you know that I applied the July 14 patch with no issues.
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Old 2020-07-28, 08:18   #18
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The only time i did Windows 10 update was last year,it was a horrible experience. Yes, I failed.
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Old 2020-07-29, 01:37   #19
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You know that:
  • Ticking the box that says "don't download updates on metered connections"
  • Unticking the box that says "get updates from other machines on your network"
  • And marking all your Internet connections as "metered"
Makes this whole dance a whole lot easier...
Interesting. I know I have the second one as described above. "Metered" connections, I never paid much attention to. Unless I am mistaken, a metered connection is like dial-up from 25 years ago. Pay-by-usage. Mine are a fixed rate.

Another which was suggested is disabling manufacturers updates for hardware. Window Update made a mess of my Nvidia drivers a couple of years ago by using a substitute. I prefer to do this one by hand with drivers from Nvidia.
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We want to tell Windows that way:

Bad Windows! Do not use my expensive paid-by-KB connection (wink) to do updates! I will tell you when I am on an non-metered connection (which I never will, muhahaha).
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Old 2020-07-29, 08:26   #21
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We want to tell Windows that way:

Bad Windows! Do not use my expensive paid-by-KB connection (wink) to do updates! I will tell you when I am on an non-metered connection (which I never will, muhahaha).
Yeah. Such a shame that it has to come that, where we have to resort to fighting MS with such tricks.
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Old 2020-07-29, 16:26   #22
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It seems to me that MS took off in a different direction after Gates left, and possibly before, as he began to reduce his involvement. Their last stable OS, out-of-the-box, was Windows 7. I do now know about 8.x. I have never used it.

Windows 10 was a mess from the get-go. I ran the v17xx series for a few months and quit. There was always something every day presenting a problem. I skipped the entire 18xx series. I ran Widows 7 Pro for 15 months. I decided to try again when v1903 came out. I never had any problems with it. Now, it is v1909. Still, no problems. It is a shame that more knowledgeable users, like many here, are aware of the little tricks MS now uses to "spy." The average Jack's & Jill's of the world have no idea what goes on in the background.

About MS: I would like to find the individual(s) who came up the .Net Framework for programming and force them to eat a very deceased and sun-ripened dog.
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