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Old 2015-11-06, 13:24   #1
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May I suggest that a crypto sub-forum might be added?

We need a forum where we can discuss such things as the recent NSA
murder of Elliptic Curve based cryptography.

For those who have not yet heard, the NSA has deprecated the use of
Ellliptic Curve Crypto.
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Old 2015-11-06, 13:57   #2
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They can't decrypt it, or what?


(agree with the need of new subforum)

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Old 2015-11-06, 14:33   #3
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They can't decrypt it, or what?


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This statement shows gross ignorance of the NSA.
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Old 2015-11-06, 15:00   #4
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We need a forum where we can discuss such things as the recent NSA
murder of Elliptic Curve based cryptography.
What name shall we call it? What parent forum should it be under?

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Old 2015-11-06, 15:14   #5
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What name shall we call it? What parent forum should it be under?

Just call it "Crypto Discussions" or similar.
I don't think it matters where it is.
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Old 2015-11-06, 15:18   #6
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Just call it "Crypto Discussions" or similar.
I don't think it matters where it is.
Computer Science & Computational Number Theory fits the bill no ? elliptics curves and number theory cryptography and computer science ?
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Old 2015-11-06, 18:06   #7
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What name shall we call it? What parent forum should it be under?
I would like to request a similar sub-forum. I don't care where it goes.

But it be should be named something like "Books worth reading" (at least initially, until playful beings change the title).

My first two would be Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett's "Good Omens", and Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon.

The idea is someone suggests reading material, and then continues to be available to discuss questions.

"The Prince" and "The Art of War" might be introduced later by me, but only after I reread them (yet again).

Thoughts?
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Old 2015-11-06, 18:29   #8
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Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman View Post
May I suggest that a crypto sub-forum might be added?

We need a forum where we can discuss such things as the recent NSA
murder of Elliptic Curve based cryptography.

For those who have not yet heard, the NSA has deprecated the use of
Ellliptic Curve Crypto.
I have not heard. Can you please provide any number of links?

Edit: Murder is an overly strong term. I had thought you meant ECC was broken and dead. Instead, what merely seems to be the case is that the NSA is only noting that ECC is not quantum-proof.

Apparently they still "recommend" the use of Diffie-Hellman key exchange, although that is nowadays approximately as broken as RSA-1024...

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Old 2015-11-06, 18:57   #9
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I have not heard. Can you please provide any number of links?

Edit: Murder is an overly strong term. I had thought you meant ECC was broken and dead. Instead, what merely seems to be the case is that the NSA is only noting that ECC is not quantum-proof.

Apparently they still "recommend" the use of Diffie-Hellman key exchange, although that is nowadays approximately as broken as RSA-1024...
Note that DH key exchange can be implemented in any group for which the digital logarithm problem is (believed to be) hard, which includes the group of points on many ellliptic curves over many base fields.
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Old 2015-11-06, 19:01   #10
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I've started my experiment.

Please bring forward books which changed your life!
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Old 2015-11-06, 21:01   #11
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Sorry, wrong thread. Go here.

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