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Old 2020-07-21, 09:54   #3290
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This may be a simplistic view, but if a poacher returns a result, just give all the credit to the user/machine that had the original assignment. That should discourage at least some of them.
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Old 2020-07-21, 10:00   #3291
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This may be a simplistic view, but if a poacher returns a result, just give all the credit to the user/machine that had the original assignment. That should discourage at least some of them.
Which can of course be gamed. Just reserve lots of assignments, never work on them, and wait for someone to complete them for you.
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Old 2020-07-21, 10:47   #3292
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Another idea: If you turn your result in (in time), which had a valid AID, but was poached, you will get credit as normal and the poacher gets its credit removed in this moment. I know that this is only helpful when the poached did not see that he was poached and ran his assignment 'til the end.
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Old 2020-07-21, 10:49   #3293
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... or just stop caring about credit.
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Old 2020-07-21, 14:57   #3294
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Seems the discussion was so active that I have to break silent and make some explanations.
Most times I just clean up the dead assignments which delay the completion of an exponent effectively. As for the last 51M exponent with ongoing progress, it wouldn't cost much time for me to finish it, so I submitted an early result. Of course this is likely a redudant effort, and I should apologize if the user without nickname felt offended. However, this is the private things between me and this user, and I believe that there are no any other harms either. Also, this does not mean when I saw an active assignments I will poach it, this is just a special rare case that hardly happen, and can be treated as single incident that can be mediated easily between users. Even if there exist any user poached many active assignments, this can be treated as special case and can be mediated (or some special actions can be taken) too.
So I don't think it makes sense to take measures for "poach", at least I think so.

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Old 2020-07-24, 18:34   #3295
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With the (very early beta) release of v30 (and all that entails), I decided to update the progress chart with extended trendlines.
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Old 2020-08-07, 14:00   #3296
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Anyone know who this PrimeNet user is?
Lasers and plasmas in Bordeaux
They have a slug of Cat 0-1 assignments not getting done, all on 1 machine.
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Old 2020-08-16, 22:18   #3297
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They´ve been around for many years (by "many" I mean at least ten, if I remember well). The name suggests a french business.
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Old 2020-08-17, 12:12   #3298
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Probably the University. They have an extensive Laser and Plasma physics lab there.
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Old 2020-08-19, 23:09   #3299
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Looking at the current status of exponents at the trailing of the FTC and DC ranges: it looks like we should easily complete 10 milestones (1,000,000 levels) between the 2, by the end of 2020. With a focused effort on the FTC's that could go up to 13.
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Old 2020-08-24, 14:17   #3300
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For lack of a better thread...

We can see a dramatic impact of PRP-VDF & Certs already in the progress report. The colourised lines are where most of the PRP results are coming in with VDFs and certs being done. Note the Composite DC column. 58,000,000 is the last range to have >1070
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----------=-----=-- | -----=-----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- |
  Exponent Range    | Composite  | Status Unproven  |        Assigned         |        Available        |
   Start   Count  P |   F    DC  |LL/PRP  ERR NO-LL |  TF    P-1  LL/PRP  DC  |  TF    P-1  LL/PRP  DC  |
----------=-----=-- | -----=-----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- |
  90000000 54705    | 35760   279 18666             |                 3    37 |                   18626 |
  91000000 54578    | 35525   256 18626         171 |     9         162    40 |                   18586 |
  92000000 54444    | 35501    55 18825          63 |                63    18 |                   18807 |
  93000000 54423    | 35334    58 18479     3   549 |               130     7 |               422 18471 |
  94000000 54645    | 35664    66 18644     2   269 |               162     2 |               109 18642 |
  95000000 54452    | 35397    29 18816     4   206 |                11     6 |               199 18810 |
  96000000 54364    | 35356    42 18928          38 |                11     2 |                27 18926 |
  97000000 54431    | 35479   599 17761         592 |   241         314     8 |                37 17751 |
  98000000 54127    | 35431  1073 13300     4  4319 |  2419        1246    21 |               659 13226 |
  99000000 54332    | 35231    26  7373     1 11701 |   403   418    42    11 |           1 10840  7360 |
 
 100000000 54208    | 34503    21  1893     1 17790 |  3404   233    22    16 |       10925  3207  1877 |
 101000000 54316    | 34067    21  3122     4 17102 | 16714         158     3 |         105   130  3118 |
 102000000 54304    | 34206    39  3147     1 16911 | 16506         181     6 |          39   188  3139 |
 103000000 54206    | 34020    70  2560     1 17555 | 16958         457    10 |         123    18  2550 |
 104000000 54207    | 33850    83  1632     5 18637 | 18087         533     3 |          23        1627 |
 105000000 54071    | 33861    86  1835     7 18282 | 16920         762     7 |           1   609  1825 |
 106000000 54061    | 33708    23  2564    10 17756 | 16520         919     6 |           4   327  2554 |
 107000000 54135    | 34048   379  2215    12 17481 | 15332        1886     3 |          11   278  2196 |
 108000000 54215    | 33550     5   435     2 20223 | 18842         654     1 |         647    86   430 |
 109000000 54131    | 33700     4   507     3 19917 | 18441         908     2 |         450   141   485 |
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