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Old 2021-10-10, 19:09   #166
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I would rather not say anything about the first and fifth incarnations of Vishnu:
Matsya (fish) and Vamana (dwarf).
Concerning Vamana, its translation from Sanskrit also means 'dwarfish bull' which could possibly be related to the bull-like animal in the fourth segment of the relief at Ta Prohm.

Also, Vishnu became a mighty bull and dragged the chariot of Shiva during the destruction of Tripura.

Another avatar of Vishnu is Rishabha. In Vedic Sanscrit, Rishabha means 'bull' and is linked to Shiva.
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Old 2021-10-12, 10:40   #167
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No ET visited earth. Ever.

Proof? You are all here, alive, and arguing.

You were not eaten, beaten, killed, shot, burned, hanged, slain, whatever other nice things we would do if we go on another planet... (think columbus, conquistadors, magellan, enslaved africa, whatever).
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Old 2021-10-12, 10:51   #168
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No ET visited earth. Ever.

Proof? You are all here, alive, and arguing.

You were not eaten, beaten, killed, shot, burned, hanged, slain, whatever other nice things we would do if we go on another planet... (think columbus, conquistadors, magellan, enslaved africa, whatever).
"Ever" is a long time.

If ET visited in the Cambrian we would be hard pushed to find evidence of any sort.
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Old 2021-10-12, 11:19   #169
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No ET visited earth. Ever.

Proof? You are all here, alive, and arguing.

You were not eaten, beaten, killed, shot, burned, hanged, slain, whatever other nice things we would do if we go on another planet... (think columbus, conquistadors, magellan, enslaved africa, whatever).
Savatdi Khap!

Do not anger the gods pls :)

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Old 2021-10-12, 12:26   #170
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Do not anger the gods pls :)
The simplest argument against paleoCONTACT is that instead of explaining anything, that hypothesis creates many more questions. More than it could answer. And all that without any evidence except belief. Paleocontact is even more unprovable than the coffee-pot or the pastafari gods.

Aesthetically, the biggest flaw of the paleocontact hypothesis is the same as for the other religious explanations : our existence would be explained by supposing other beings. Since those other entities are not seen, touched, heard, read, in other words left no traces except a belief in some consciences, how are they explained ?

Perhaps to get in touch with reality you could read the 1964 book by science-fiction writers Catherine C. De Camp and L.Sprague de Camp, "Citadels of mystery". But letting reality touch delusion can be dangerous for ones beliefs.

And I'd like to finish my post by a question :
Who are you to ask or beg anyone not to anger YOUR gods ?" ;-)
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Old 2021-10-12, 12:34   #171
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You can call white black as much as you like and write that there is no evidence, that the aliens are not seen or heard, when there are a lot of inexplicable artifacts and people often see UFOs. The denial of paleocontact is akin to the heliocentric system, the only thing that the Catholic Church recognized in the Middle Ages.
How many nice people have suffered as a result of this are countless.
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Old 2021-10-12, 13:03   #172
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the heliocentric system, the only thing that the Catholic Church recognized in the Middle Ages.
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One more myth and misconception. "e pur si muove" sounds sounds : it conforms current "communication", but it remains a myth about the real reasons for Galileo's persecution.

You believe "inexplicable" implies that you can fill in whatever you want (having an explanation renders the word meaningless btw), you duly identify "Unidentified Flying Objects" (which has the same consequences : if you identify the object, and argue that your explanation is correct, the object IS identified and Unidentified no more ! ;-)

I prefer inexplicable to mean "that what can not be explained with the facts currently available."

You prefer "since others can't explain these facts you must accept my 'explanation'."

Even when to do that you have to ignore the explanations provided by those others.

Belief versus thinking.

Last fiddled with by S485122 on 2021-10-12 at 13:05 Reason: Your side tracking to the the victims of superstition, sorry, metaphysics or religion doesn't change a fact.
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Old 2021-10-12, 13:12   #173
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I prefer to call a duck a duck, rather than an unidentified floating object emitting sound vibrations :)
https://www.mersenneforum.org/showth...917#post589917
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Old 2021-10-12, 13:31   #174
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You were not eaten, beaten, killed, shot, burned, hanged, slain, whatever other nice things we would do if we go on another planet... (think columbus, conquistadors, magellan, enslaved africa, whatever).
Considering a community able to go visiting other star systems, having thus resisted auto-destruction by wars (internecine or against the eco-system.) Do you really think that they would have any rational motive to repeat those destructive behaviours ? It does well for fiction ... but what could be the justification of travelling light-years to enslave or just harm other beings, or retrieving some artefacts or materials ?
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Old 2021-10-12, 13:35   #175
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I have already written so much about this here that I can afford to just quote some of my comments.
https://www.mersenneforum.org/showth...881#post589881
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Old 2021-10-12, 13:50   #176
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Have you never read 2001?

BTW: Water was found at Clavius
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