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Old 2021-10-08, 20:50   #12
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Use the forum's search function.
I see. Thank you!
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Old 2021-10-08, 20:50   #13
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This is a beautiful task, but rather non-trivial :) I found the answer on the net, I confess.
The only difficulty was the very small amount of ciphertext presented. The cipher itself was very easy to solve once the glyphs were converted to numbers. It took me perhaps two hours work in total, using only pen, paper and a simple calculator. I had already come across the glyphs years ago but needed a web search to find the conversion key.

I found a meaningful and consistent but incorrect ciphertext (prior to the "single word" clue being given, earlier it had just been "ten letters") before hitting the correct approach on the second try. I won only because very few people made the attempt.

Solved the other one yet?

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Old 2021-10-08, 20:58   #14
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IIRC, the Voynich Manuscript contains three-letter-words that only consist of one distinct letter. This would be unheard of in German. For some languages, I think we can rule this out, too. But I'm not sure if this is true in general.
Such things exist in abbreviations as in world wide web and American Automobile Association but with the notable exception of the former they are still rare in English text. Even www has become common only recently.

That's not to say the Voynich manuscript does not contain abbreviations.
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Old 2021-10-08, 21:06   #15
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Here is Main Street in Luxembourgish:
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(Yes, it's a compound noun, but still looks good!)

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Old 2021-10-08, 21:17   #16
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I had already come across the glyphs years ago but needed a web search to find the conversion key.
You mean Character pro notitia linguarum universali.
It reminded me of the Mayan positional numeral system:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_numerals

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Solved the other one yet?
You overestimate me.
I'm more about paleocontact. And all sorts of things like Magic Crystal Balls for predictions :)

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Old 2021-10-08, 21:25   #17
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I think this cypher style is interesting.

Not secure or anything, but makes people hesitate.
Code:
籗籸粀 籲籼 籽籱籮 籽籲籶籮 籯籸类 籪籵籵 籰籸籸籭 籶籮籷 籽籸 籬籸籶籮 籾籹 籽籱籮 籶籪籲籭 籪籽 籽籱籮 籹籪类籽粂簷
It is a simple English sentence, using common words.
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Old 2021-10-09, 06:50   #18
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When do we get to have delete and edit privilages?
I have been in this forum for more than a couple of years now, but I still can't even edit anything after a very short period of time.
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Old 2021-10-09, 07:22   #19
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When do we get to have delete and edit privilages?
I have been in this forum for more than a couple of years now, but I still can't even edit anything after a very short period of time.
And it is the same for all users ... except the moderators and the forum owner.
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Old 2021-10-09, 07:25   #20
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And it is the same for all users ... except the moderators and the forum owner.
I do hope they extend the privilages a bit more based on people's tenure and number of posts in the platform.
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Old 2021-10-09, 09:25   #21
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I think this cypher style is interesting.

Not secure or anything, but makes people hesitate.
Code:
籗籸粀 籲籼 籽籱籮 籽籲籶籮 籯籸类 籪籵籵 籰籸籸籭 籶籮籷 籽籸 籬籸籶籮 籾籹 籽籱籮 籶籪籲籭 籪籽 籽籱籮 籹籪类籽粂簷
It is a simple English sentence, using common words.
I used one character for punctuation.

Now is the time for all good men to come up the maid at the party

It resembles

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.

or

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party.

If the capitilization doesn't count, then

bow is the time for all good men to come up the maid at the party

or

job is the time for all good men to come up the maid at the party

or

jow is the time for all good men to come up the maid at the party

(jow is the sound of the bell)

or

vow is the time for all good men to come up the maid at the party

Otherwise there might be a typo in the question.
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Old 2021-10-09, 12:46   #22
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I used one character for punctuation.
You don't need to guess any characters. All punctuation and capitalisation etc. is perfectly decodable once you discover the method.
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