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Feb 2004
France
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Hello,
One more conjecture. Again based on Shallit&Vasiga paper, and checked up to n=16. The DiGraph under x^2-2 modulo a Fermat prime is made of a Tree and of Cycles of length dividing 2^n-1. Conjecture: Let n be an integer and F = 2^2^n+1 . S(0) = (F-3)/2 and S(i+1) = S(i)^2 - 2 (mod F) ; F is prime iff S(2^n-1) == S(0) (mod F). Tony |
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#35 |
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Feb 2004
France
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The number of Cycles for n=2,3,4 are:
Code:
n 2^n-1 L #Cycles
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2 3 3 1
3 7 7 9
4 15 3 1
5 3
15 1091
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34 3.43691.131071
F34 is the first Fermat number we do not know if it is prime or not. Under x^2-2, there are probably Cycles of length 3, 43691, 131071, 3*43691, 3*131071, 43691*131071, and 2^34-1. With the same kind of hypothesis than the ones I've used for the "idea" I've explained in a previous thread about Mersenne numbers, one could imagine to run the llt (x^2-2) on several Cycles smaller than the big one (L=2^34-1), jumping from one Cycle to another by means of llt2 (x^3-3*x). If one Cycle does not exist, then it would mean F34 is not prime. Once proved (!) ... this test would be faster than Pépin's test for proving a Fermat number is composite. But this requires to build several properties before ... Shallit&Vasiga's paper say nothing about a formula for building numbers belonging to Cycles of the DiGrapht under x^2-2 modulo a Fermat prime. Since the same kind of Conjecture appears for Mersenne, Fermat, and Wagstaff numbers, I think it is worth Number Theory experts look at this and see if the work of Shallit&Vasiga can be extended. Your opinion ? Tony |
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#36 |
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Feb 2004
France
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About the 4 Lengths we have the number of Cycles:
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L #Cycles ----------- 3 1 5 3 7 9 15 1091 I guess it is related to: A000048. Who can provide a proof ? Rony |
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"Phil"
Sep 2002
Tracktown, U.S.A.
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Quote:
http://www.prothsearch.net/fermat.html |
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Feb 2004
France
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Factors of 2^33-1 : 7*23*89*599479 . Less interesting than F34 ! Thanks Phil ! Tony |
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Jun 2005
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We have three threads, lets put them together for a common primality test for Mersenne, Wagstaff and Fermat numbers.
Mersenne: refer Another (candidate) test of primality of Mersenne number But the conjecture can be simplified to: Conjecture: Let p be a prime integer and M = (2^p-1). S(0) = (M-10)/3 and S(i+1) = S(i)^2 - 2 (mod M) ; M is prime iff S(p-1) == S(0) . Wagstaff: refer Conjectured primality test for (2^p+1)/3 Conjecture: Let p be a prime integer and W = (2^p+1)/3 . S(0) = (W+3)/2 and S(i+1) = S(i)^2 - 2 (mod W) ; W is prime iff S(p-1) == S(0) . Fermat: refer Conjectured primality test for Fermat numbers Conjecture: Let n be an integer and F = 2^2^n+1 . S(0) = (F-3)/2 and S(i+1) = S(i)^2 - 2 (mod F) ; F is prime iff S(2^n-1) == S(0) (mod F). The similarities are striking - should not be ignored Quote:
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Jun 2005
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Lets continue under a common thread
Conjectured Primality Test for 2^p-1, (2^p+1)/3 and (2^2^n+1) |
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Feb 2004
France
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Quote:
Tony |
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Jun 2005
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Oh if you were wondering about
S(0) = (M-10)/3 that is (2^p+1)/3-4 The common number in the DiGraphs of length (p-1) for Mersenne numbers. |
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#43 |
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Feb 2004
France
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With: W(q) = (2^q+1)/3 , S(0) = (W(q)+3)/2 .
Since S(1) = S(0)^2-2 ~= W(q-2) (mod W(q)), you could also use: S(0) = W(q-2) = (2^(q-2)+1)/3 as a starting value (seed). Not really useful, buf funny. T. |
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Jun 2005
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Conjecture:
Let p be a prime integer and Q = (2^p-1) or Q=(2^p+1)/3 Let x=(Q-1)/p and y be an odd integer y^x = r (mod Q) if r is odd then r=Q-r Q is prime iff r==2^z , z a integer. I have found no exceptions Last fiddled with by AntonVrba on 2006-05-30 at 06:44 |
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