what happens if this project scoops the prize? and other stuff

Chino112 · 2006-04-07, 14:59

Hi,

I joined this project a short time ago and have my two PCs (home and work) crunching numbers. I really enjoy reading about this project and even though most of the mathematics goes over my head (I am a programmer ;)) I like the idea that this is one of the few distributed computing projects with an attainable goal. Unlike Seti, for example, where the progress is unclear and never ending.

To let you know my work PC also runs BOINC and is now running a climate model, which I am getting bored of and will soon kill.... to hell with it, I just did it.

I find that it is more fun when the people who are doing all the work are kept in the loop, which is not true of most Distributed Computing Projects. I like to know what is happening and where the project is at, where it is going and to make what I do worthwhile. I think that this is a great project for feedback as the people involved are in contact with everyone else all the time. I also think that everyone seems very interested in the project and lots of constructive feedback is thrown about. Keep it up.

The only thing I could not find on this forum is the answer to this question?

What if I got a 10million digit prime tomorrow? Do I personally take the prize, or does the project split it.

This is hypothetical, I dont think I will get that tomorrow...maybe on Monday. I have only done, em 65 odd PSPs, whereas folks like ltd, citrix, brucifier, footmaster etc have been pumping this baby for years and should they miss out because someone like me got lucky?

I would also like to know about the proposed updating of the stats page, is it a reality to have it real time?

Also, you guys thought of contacting Math departments in universities or similar ideas, to ask them to donate computing power? It is in their interests.

Also, I think a simple page which shows the primes found by this project, would be nice with a current position in the top xxxx. I know this is in the getting started page, but it would be nice, no? Lets the project show off a bit.

Also, a small bit of information on why large prime numbers are important to maths etc to try and get new members. This is what interests me, and if I cant see a positive purpose, why should I participate?

The llrnet is flying now it isnt in a slapping competition with BOINC!

Greenbank · 2006-04-07, 16:05

Given that the lowest k is 17 bits then you're looking at the first test of a 10M (decimal) digit number being around n=33,219,556 (give or take 3 or 4 for the larger k-values).

Bearing in mind we are at n=2.5M there's a long long way to go before we're testing 10M (decimal) digit numbers.

The numbers we are testing now are around 750,000 (decimal) digits.

Citrix · 2006-04-08, 01:55

I find that it is more fun when the people who are doing all the work are kept in the loop, which is not true of most Distributed Computing Projects. I like to know what is happening and where the project is at, where it is going and to make what I do worthwhile. I think that this is a great project for feedback as the people involved are in contact with everyone else all the time. I also think that everyone seems very interested in the project and lots of constructive feedback is thrown about. Keep it up.

Thanks!

The only thing I could not find on this forum is the answer to this question?

What if I got a 10million digit prime tomorrow? Do I personally take the prize, or does the project split it.

We do not have any rules for this right now, since the chance of winning the prime for us is low. But I guess the top producers should get a piece of the pie.

I would also like to know about the proposed updating of the stats page, is it a reality to have it real time?

Ltd is working on this.

Also, you guys thought of contacting Math departments in universities or similar ideas, to ask them to donate computing power? It is in their interests.

We haven't tried. We don't have any contacts in Math dept. in universities. If you know someone, you can ask them on our behalf.

Also, I think a simple page which shows the primes found by this project, would be nice with a current position in the top xxxx. I know this is in the getting started page, but it would be nice, no? Lets the project show off a bit.
http://primes.utm.edu/bios/page.php?id=564

Also, a small bit of information on why large prime numbers are important to maths etc to try and get new members. This is what interests me, and if I cant see a positive purpose, why should I participate?

Because alot is unknown about prime numbers, and as humans we like to know even though that knowledge at present may have no applications. It might in the future.

Hope this answers all your questions
Citrix

2006-04-07, 14:59	#1
Chino112 Mar 2006 19 Posts	what happens if this project scoops the prize? and other stuff Hi, I joined this project a short time ago and have my two PCs (home and work) crunching numbers. I really enjoy reading about this project and even though most of the mathematics goes over my head (I am a programmer ;)) I like the idea that this is one of the few distributed computing projects with an attainable goal. Unlike Seti, for example, where the progress is unclear and never ending. To let you know my work PC also runs BOINC and is now running a climate model, which I am getting bored of and will soon kill.... to hell with it, I just did it. I find that it is more fun when the people who are doing all the work are kept in the loop, which is not true of most Distributed Computing Projects. I like to know what is happening and where the project is at, where it is going and to make what I do worthwhile. I think that this is a great project for feedback as the people involved are in contact with everyone else all the time. I also think that everyone seems very interested in the project and lots of constructive feedback is thrown about. Keep it up. The only thing I could not find on this forum is the answer to this question? What if I got a 10million digit prime tomorrow? Do I personally take the prize, or does the project split it. This is hypothetical, I dont think I will get that tomorrow...maybe on Monday. I have only done, em 65 odd PSPs, whereas folks like ltd, citrix, brucifier, footmaster etc have been pumping this baby for years and should they miss out because someone like me got lucky? I would also like to know about the proposed updating of the stats page, is it a reality to have it real time? Also, you guys thought of contacting Math departments in universities or similar ideas, to ask them to donate computing power? It is in their interests. Also, I think a simple page which shows the primes found by this project, would be nice with a current position in the top xxxx. I know this is in the getting started page, but it would be nice, no? Lets the project show off a bit. Also, a small bit of information on why large prime numbers are important to maths etc to try and get new members. This is what interests me, and if I cant see a positive purpose, why should I participate? The llrnet is flying now it isnt in a slapping competition with BOINC! Last fiddled with by Chino112 on 2006-04-07 at 15:12

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2006-04-07, 16:05	#2
Greenbank Jul 2005 2·193 Posts	Given that the lowest k is 17 bits then you're looking at the first test of a 10M (decimal) digit number being around n=33,219,556 (give or take 3 or 4 for the larger k-values). Bearing in mind we are at n=2.5M there's a long long way to go before we're testing 10M (decimal) digit numbers. The numbers we are testing now are around 750,000 (decimal) digits.

2006-04-08, 01:55	#3
Citrix Jun 2003 2×7×113 Posts	I find that it is more fun when the people who are doing all the work are kept in the loop, which is not true of most Distributed Computing Projects. I like to know what is happening and where the project is at, where it is going and to make what I do worthwhile. I think that this is a great project for feedback as the people involved are in contact with everyone else all the time. I also think that everyone seems very interested in the project and lots of constructive feedback is thrown about. Keep it up. Thanks! The only thing I could not find on this forum is the answer to this question? What if I got a 10million digit prime tomorrow? Do I personally take the prize, or does the project split it. We do not have any rules for this right now, since the chance of winning the prime for us is low. But I guess the top producers should get a piece of the pie. I would also like to know about the proposed updating of the stats page, is it a reality to have it real time? Ltd is working on this. Also, you guys thought of contacting Math departments in universities or similar ideas, to ask them to donate computing power? It is in their interests. We haven't tried. We don't have any contacts in Math dept. in universities. If you know someone, you can ask them on our behalf. Also, I think a simple page which shows the primes found by this project, would be nice with a current position in the top xxxx. I know this is in the getting started page, but it would be nice, no? Lets the project show off a bit. http://primes.utm.edu/bios/page.php?id=564 Also, a small bit of information on why large prime numbers are important to maths etc to try and get new members. This is what interests me, and if I cant see a positive purpose, why should I participate? Because alot is unknown about prime numbers, and as humans we like to know even though that knowledge at present may have no applications. It might in the future. Hope this answers all your questions Citrix